Understood in what you're saying. What I'm getting at is that at even at 50% slower killing speed which would probably be somewhat close it's 100 runs at 200mf or 50 at 400mf. Technically is a wash but on the 400 mf side I have higher chances of success on horkinh as well as a 150 mf more as well as life tap and more damage reduction and cb and resists which leaves more inventory room if using g face instead of arreats. This is correct of the situation is it not?

This post was edited by Sgtpeppers89 on Aug 29 2022 12:44pm

wrong! grief beast is best pvp and pvm. people go with phase blades because they don't want to repair. this guy is wanting to mf not speed run there are a lot of viable options other than grief. what i don't like about the build is that it looks like it won't have enough attack speed. id use skulders put an ias jewel in it and 1 in your shako, but no tele would make baal and meph suck though.

Wrong.

This game is over 20 years old, if the build you listed was optimal
/ effective in any capacity, you would see people using said gear.

There’s a reason you don’t.

This post was edited by IgoSoHard on Aug 29 2022 12:52pm

incorrect. 200 or 250 mf compared to 400 mf produces very little difference in drops. its not 2x better drops, but is for sure 2x slower kills.

thus what i said rings true.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Aug 29 2022 12:54pm

you are confusing effective with optimal

I suppose I will have to test the character offline and see how it does.

No, I’m not.

You’re conflating usable with effective.

You are using a more expensive build to achieve significantly lower results


This build is trash.

I'll test and see what the kill speed is like I don't actually think it will be half of what a grief setup would. Plus it's something different and also not trash I've used far worse builds with success on finding items. Your comments however I would probably rank trash as you provided almost zero actual information. However I'll give you some credit you did manage to say grief a few times and make numerous remarks on other builds and topic points irrelevant to this convo so can't say you are a complete waste.