No worries.

Always been here to explain sins and WW sins in particular.

Lots of bad info out there.

A question, getting 12k ar on both hands, is it good enough for starters without a gg claw?

This post was edited by babun1024 on Aug 3 2022 08:27am

For ghost:
With a fools claw, jn 65 setup with a visionary circlet, you will typically have between 18-22k, depending on jewels in circlet, if circlet has base Dex and how many hard points you put into Dex (typically on a high end ghost on legacy at lvl 99, you will put in between 10-25 Dex points)

With a cruel claw (or non fools claw) in 65 setup with a visionary, you will have 9.5-12k AR, under the same circumstances as above.


With a fools claw in 102 setup, you will typically have 10-13k AR depending on rinfs and amulet and if you opt for 36/20 SCs instead of 3/20/20

With cruels in 102 setup, you will typically have 6-9k AR, depending on AR roll on cruels.


For hybrid:
In 65 with a visionary you will typically have 10-13.5k AR depending on same situations as ghost

Hybrids don’t get much value from cruel but get more from it now in d2r (because of being able to max claw mastery from the 20 extra points given). I am currently using a cruel on legacy in 65 setup with BiS gear and hit 10.5k AR in 65 FCR. (This AR value in d2 legacy was achieved by maxing claw mastery and putting 65 ish points into LS and synergies as opposed to 80. This build is focused on hitting like a ghost, but having less LS damage. The typical 2/3/fools 65 FCR hybrid sin will have 8610 LS damage and 3800ish WW damage with a high end Eth rep 2/3/fools claw. This build I’m referenceing here hits 6300 LS damage and 5100 WW damage).

In 102, with fools, a hybrid will typically get 6.5-10k AR depending on charms and rings and amulet and if you put base Dex into stats.



The above values are all based off of the your fools/cruels claw. Not how much AR your chaos has.


Note:
For d2r, the difference between hybrid AR and ghost AR will normalize and reach relatively the same values as hybrid now gets 20 extra skill points to use due to the removal of 1 synergy of Lightning sentry. These 20 extra points will generally be put almost entirely into claw mastery.

This post was edited by Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins on Aug 3 2022 08:56am

Thx for the thorough answer. I guess my feral claw with +3MB/+3blade shield/+1 LS on mule is the best mainhand claw for a ghost setup right now that I have.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Aug 4 2022 01:00am

Do you know of a guide for a ghost sin thats updated? Good to know Feral + Feral is meta.

There has never been a good guide made for ghost or hybrid.

The only perfect guide is the one in my head

Would you be able to list the gear and inventory needed if you don't mind please? From this forum I see I'll need two Feral Claw Chaos, and Gore Riders

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