Quote (chaoschaoschaos @ Jun 5 2022 09:57pm)

I guess when I think vita I just associate it with glass and thought it might be better to deal so much damage that 1 telestomp gets the job done. But I'm also high and don't know much about sorcs.

Quote (paweljonk @ Jun 4 2022 08:06am)

Vita fb xD. What u gonna beat with that shit exept some es sorcs. Vita only good for svs and then u go 200fcr.
Nec gonna beat vita
Druid gonna beat u
Assa gonna beat u
Hammer gonna beat u
Vita is just bad for pvp

Quote (AvanineCommuter @ Jun 7 2022 03:59pm)

FB vs Necs are a wash. ES dominates Necs but Necs don’t necessarily dominate vita sorcs.

Good FBer has a class advantage over druid - one single fb kills entire zoo and cyclone armor.

Assa > sorcs period.

Who duels w hdins now?

Quote (paweljonk @ Jun 7 2022 09:00am)

no way a vita fb beats an druid or nec with hots on

Quote (emptyfolder @ Jun 5 2022 01:40am)

1 Strength = 1 Vitality = 2 pts of Life

Treks give you 15 str and 15 vita, I need this str either way, either clicking it or from the boots thus giving me 30 Vita = 60 Life. You can use Waterwalks for Fire vs Fire, but you lose 1 fhr breakpoint, which at this point I can NOT tell if its better. Will test in duels at some point.

Quote (emptyfolder @ Jun 7 2022 05:23pm)

Hits or infernos are not forbidden when you use ES sorc because of the low spirit dmg of necromancers and 8 reduce from spirit shield. Now PNB got a 20-25% damage buff in 2.4 and you gonna tell me a necro S tier pvp class needs 85% fire res to beat up a vita sorc ? That’s borderline pathetic imo

Quote (paweljonk @ Jun 7 2022 10:41am)

90 fireres are gm on hammer/nec/druid. Thats why vita fb is garbage imo.
Its hard to beat hammers and druids as esfb not even talking about vita sorcs

Quote (emptyfolder @ Jun 7 2022 07:00pm)

well matchup is already hard, whats the solution then? Put 90 fire res :thumbsup:
Druid have ele absorb and 8k life - slap 90 max res
hammerdins do 14k dmg without resiistance ? - slap 90 max res, fuck fire sorcs

I think it would be easier if we just ban fire sorcs from dueling - GM

Quote (paweljonk @ Jun 7 2022 12:02pm)

Just make a 95es fb and you will beat most druids and hammerdins

Quote (emptyfolder @ Jun 7 2022 07:06pm)

over 85ES is BM, also ES doesn't make you win a duel, if youre telestomped woll you get your mana burned and you wont even be able to cast fireball
Idk when last you paly ES sorc, but it's nothing glorious. I paly only fire sorc and I tested it all past 1 year

Also, im revisiting my guide, and hear this - fire sorc with 28k dmg and 4.6k life, 105fcr, max res, 8% dr
You guys can keep playing your OP S tier necros and keep complaining that B tier classes need infernos to play against :wacko: