How To Get To 9 Fpa Trap Laying As A Ghost - Topic

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Dec 2 2021 04:18pm

Quote (solairesunbro @ Dec 2 2021 11:15pm)

thanks a lot, noticeably better trap laying speed and on the character screen it says 55% rather than 30% before. i am also able to keep at 65% fcr breakpoint with raven and a 10% fcr ring, so it all works out :D if i remove chaos neither shadow dancer nor fury scissor can be worn. so my chaos is on my boot side

Gj bro

Next step would be to add a 102fcr equip^^

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Dec 2 2021 04:59pm

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U shot urself in the knee a little yes.

1. Fool's should always be main claw and main claw should always be fastest claw.
This is due to the fact that if u miss with ur chaos which will hit first cause main, then both claws will operate with that hit chance until u hit again.
2. U cannot manual WSM bug in d2r. So ur stuck with chaos runic as main claw over gloves.
Currently ur claws wsm is average (-30+0)/2 = -15 wsm.

So what works in D2R is automatic wsm bug. But this is really impossible to pull off on a runic claw even though chaos adds 10 str. Because runic claw has 115 requirements which is highest for claws^^ so u cannot wsm bug with them either.

Ideally you should run both runics atm.

With -15 wsm setup u got now with chaos as main ur currently on 35 ias.
This gives u a traplaying speed of 11 frames with fade setup.
U need 42 ias for 10 frames.
U need 75 ias for 9 frames.

I would swap that fools claw.

??? He can wsm suw and runic the other way around also gel

He should still get -45 wsm like this

But suwayyah chaos is just better, and he needs a tad more ias for 9 fpa traps (18 ias iirc)

You could shael the fast claw and u got max bp

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Dec 2 2021 07:19pm

Quote (Stefbef @ Dec 2 2021 11:59pm)

I told him how on Page 2 and he has already did it with Great results

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Dec 2 2021 08:12pm

Quote (solairesunbro @ Dec 2 2021 03:04pm)

im using a ghost setup, so pure fade.

i have a scissors suwayyah 3 sock +3 light sentry ready to go if I don't need a fury runic talon.

i heard that in d2r there is no manual wsm, so gotta work with awsm

by your description of the two solutions...

i have to put my gear on in a very specific way it seems.

I have shadow dancers which require 167 str. i have no dex requirement other than using the claws.

my char is lvl 90. I think by your description, as long as i am forced to put fury on second to chaos it will work???

fools is a bit distant.

i think with anni and torch and shadow dancer i wont worry as much about dex.

scissor suwayyah may actually be the claw base for wwsins to autowsm bug themselves due to the 118 dex req.

Ive been meaning to test out if 2x chaos would work for autowsm or if the +10str from the chaos would unbug it once it becomes active.
if it doesn't unbug that means that you can bug using dancers to power the scissor suwayyah to autowsm.
but thats a big if.

if you are just looking for a temp solution without trying all this stuff, the easiest is just go with 2x runics (42ias bp) or feral/runic (52ias bp) in standard equipping, and if you are a 65fcr build use highlords to help hit the bp.

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Dec 2 2021 08:15pm

Quote (gel87 @ Dec 2 2021 02:08pm)

So what works in D2R is automatic wsm bug. But this is really impossible to pull off on a runic claw even though chaos adds 10 str. Because runic claw has 115 requirements which is highest for claws^^ so u cannot wsm bug with them either.

scissor suwayyah has 118 str/dex req, making it possible to auto wsm with runic/scissor suwayyah

I do that on my nats set sin, the set is practically made for autowsm with nats claw being a scissor suwayyah.

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Dec 2 2021 11:36pm

Quote (Ziecheik @ Dec 3 2021 03:15am)

Yes i told him on Page 2 mate ^^
Did not remember those first xD

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Dec 2 2021 11:39pm

Quote (gel87 @ Dec 3 2021 12:36am)

Yes i told him on Page 2 mate ^^
Did not remember those first xD

oh lol musta missed that post

no one remember scissor suwayyah claws.. except nats players >.>

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Dec 3 2021 11:39am

Quote (Ziecheik @ 3 Dec 2021 03:15)

This

Get chaos scissors suwayyah with a runic talon main hand

You need dex from the main hand tho so I’m not sure if it’s possible to spawn on the base, else u need a 2 soc one and waste a jewel for it (if u still want an Um inside ofc)

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Dec 3 2021 11:40am

But don’t rely on it too much, it’s most likely gonna get patched

If they care enough to ruin autowsm in legacy d2 they sure as hell care enough to ruin it here

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Dec 4 2021 02:25am

Quote (Stefbef @ Dec 3 2021 12:40pm)

But don’t rely on it too much, it’s most likely gonna get patched

If they care enough to ruin autowsm in legacy d2 they sure as hell care enough to ruin it here

to be honest, I'm not sure if they care or it's ever intentional.

on d2lod current patch autowsm isn't exactly patched, its that there is some weird interaction where it doesn't work server side while it still looks like it works clientside.
so it doesn't work but.. it's not exactly an intentional fix.

likewise manual wsm not working on d2r may not be an intentional patching of wsm bug, but rather a byproduct of the way d2r refreshes your inventory.
(this is my assumption based from how I see autowsm working on d2r, with it setting or breaking automatically once conditions are met.)

so there is still hope that left handed assassins will remain in the game after all the patching is said and done.
and I hope it remains.
has always been a feature, used the same setup to do it on nats set 15 years ago as I do now.

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