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I like Faith merc and 105 fcr on switch
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Quote (bloodywanker89 @ Mar 31 2016 02:40am)
Yes, a2 might aura w/ pride, runemaster with max ds (5x LO runes @ 100% ds) 27 fcr ammy, arach, 2x 10 fcr rings w / some bo sticks or twin hotos (sorry I'm old school) and a nice bo helm w/ some sockets to throw 2x bers in. Medusas gaze slows enemy target, along with cleglaws (although kb can be rather annoying on a melee char) add that with decrepify an you bring them to a standstill lol.

terrible advice
5*Lo runemaster has less than half the dmg of grief. grief setup has 90% chance to double dmg anyways
so grief would hits more than 2* harder

the whole setup has 0ias, it's a pityful 17frames per attack. a good build would have 9fpa, nearly doubling the dmg output again

27fcr amu doesn't exist

bo helm in pvm is a joke

cleg, so you lose 20ias 350ed, knock monsters so you can't kill them, and gain nothing, what a great idea
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Quote (lilith0 @ Mar 31 2016 06:31am)
terrible advice
5*Lo runemaster has less than half the dmg of grief. grief setup has 90% chance to double dmg anyways
so grief would hits more than 2* harder

the whole setup has 0ias, it's a pityful 17frames per attack. a good build would have 9fpa, nearly doubling the dmg output again

27fcr amu doesn't exist

bo helm in pvm is a joke

cleg, so you lose 20ias 350ed, knock monsters so you can't kill them, and gain nothing, what a great idea


27 fcr ammys don't exist? Wow that's news. Then why can you craft a 30 fcr ammy? Yes the 27 fcr ammy is the max fcr for a crafted ammy with one skill. So your wrong bro. Way wrong.

An the helm is so you don't have to put any points into howl. Which by nature is not a bad thing.

An yeah kb sucks but it slows the target. Might come in handy with all the casters. Just an FYI. The truth is there is no such thing as a "perfect char" but you can highlight perfect attributes I chose deadly strike with one of the few items that has the all important cannot be frozen. An while we can sit here and say this is better than that truth is its all good gear.

Just remember Lilith you only know what you know and you don't know what they know and there's no way in hell you know what I know so step back. The things I say are for a reason. Not just to be a jackass.

You know instead of arguing about who's right an who's more right why not ask the op? How many hits does it take you to kill and go from there. It's called problem solving. Maybe you should go to school an take a course in it.
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Mar 31 2016 08:59am
& at his op set up he has 53% chance of ds. Not bad but not near 90% . Add Guillaume's and it's a 68% chance which is a significant improvement. That's where I'd go an check to see if that helps your speed out. But yes I do recommend picking up a 27 fcr ammy w/1 + an any mod you see fit. It just helps.
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Quote (bloodywanker89 @ 31 Mar 2016 17:52)
27 fcr ammys don't exist? Wow that's news. Then why can you craft a 30 fcr ammy? Yes the 27 fcr ammy is the max fcr for a crafted ammy with one skill. So your wrong bro. Way wrong.

An the helm is so you don't have to put any points into howl. Which by nature is not a bad thing.

An yeah kb sucks but it slows the target. Might come in handy with all the casters. Just an FYI. The truth is there is no such thing as a "perfect char" but you can highlight perfect attributes I chose deadly strike with one of the few items that has the all important cannot be frozen. An while we can sit here and say this is better than that truth is its all good gear.

Just remember Lilith you only know what you know and you don't know what they know and there's no way in hell you know what I know so step back. The things I say are for a reason. Not just to be a jackass.

You know instead of arguing about who's right an who's more right why not ask the op? How many hits does it take you to kill and go from there. It's called problem solving. Maybe you should go to school an take a course in it.


Quote (bloodywanker89 @ 31 Mar 2016 17:59)
& at his op set up he has 53% chance of ds. Not bad but not near 90% . Add Guillaume's and it's a 68% chance which is a significant improvement. That's where I'd go an check to see if that helps your speed out. But yes I do recommend picking up a 27 fcr ammy w/1 + an any mod you see fit. It just helps.


You lag so much basics, so pls don't give useless advices, you just confuse op.
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Quote (bloodywanker89 @ Mar 31 2016 07:59am)
& at his op set up he has 53% chance of ds. Not bad but not near 90% . Add Guillaume's and it's a 68% chance which is a significant improvement. That's where I'd go an check to see if that helps your speed out. But yes I do recommend picking up a 27 fcr ammy w/1 + an any mod you see fit. It just helps.


Why do you keep spreading misinformation and giving terrible advice? This is like the 3rd thread I've seen you doing this.

I came here to learn something about Zerker barb builds and basically you're saying the exact opposite of the other posters on here, who seem to be much more credible than you. 27 fcr ammy?!? Wtf?!

Not trying to be a dick, but stop.

This post was edited by Retrovirus on Mar 31 2016 09:35am
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Quote (bloodywanker89 @ Mar 31 2016 03:52pm)
27 fcr ammys don't exist? Wow that's news. Then why can you craft a 30 fcr ammy? Yes the 27 fcr ammy is the max fcr for a crafted ammy with one skill. So your wrong bro. Way wrong.

this is gold
Quote (bloodywanker89 @ Mar 31 2016 03:52pm)
An the helm is so you don't have to put any points into howl. Which by nature is not a bad thing.

yeah, who needs 35%cb 15%ds when you can save one point in howl
Quote (bloodywanker89 @ Mar 31 2016 03:52pm)
The truth is there is no such thing as a "perfect char".

This is a poor, common excuse used by noobs to try and justify themselves when they're proven wrong. Even if there was no perfect char, it wouldn't change anything, 5*Lo runemaster stays a terrible weapon.
Quote (bloodywanker89 @ Mar 31 2016 03:52pm)
You know instead of arguing about who's right an who's more right why not ask the op? How many hits does it take you to kill and go from there. It's called problem solving. Maybe you should go to school an take a course in it.

great idea, they answer they need 3 hits to kill
1) it's heavily biased
2) even if it was accurate, there is nothing to do with this info
Quote (bloodywanker89 @ Mar 31 2016 03:59pm)
& at his op set up he has 53% chance of ds. Not bad but not near 90% . Add Guillaume's and it's a 68% chance which is a significant improvement. That's where I'd go an check to see if that helps your speed out.

grief+HL+gores+guilli=87%ds. with 22%crit from mastery, that's 87+0.13*22~=90% chance to double dmg.
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Mar 31 2016 10:19am
OMFG... really... some of the BS going on in this thread is fucking bull fucking shit.

Who the fuck would NOT put points into HOWL on a fucking berserk barb... what the fuck... 1 skill point into howl increases the damage output of Berserk... are you a fucking moron to give up 20 skill points into howl to increase Berserks damage by 200%???? Fuck grow a fucking braincell... moronic fucking advice coming from an individual that can not even comprehend 10% increased damage per HARD skill point into Howl... and SHOUT.

By the way... who would use Stormshield on a Berserk barb anyway... have you not read the SKILL called BERSERK? No you haven't, otherwise you will realise that using a shield and 0 defense can increase your chance to get "block-locked" which means that you can NOT take ANY other action... NOTE: this does not mean that you should not use a shield, it just means that you should NOT invest into Max block like normal builds... you should however take not of the duration of the skill to ensure you are NOT "block-locked" longer than necessary.

Pheonix shield is the only option to think of using when making a berserk barb that yields a shield.

Why grief is the best option, well we all know the answer right... well with a Berserk barb, the "+XXX added damage" to minimum + maximum damage is multiplied and coverted to magical damage. So... 15 minimum damage + 400 added damage multiplied by XXXX% converted into magical damage is greater than 15 minimum damage mulitplied by XXXX% converted into magical damage RIGHT? [NOTE: read the sentence a few times to comprehend]

Guillames vs Arreats.
It is basically personal preference... I myself will take Arreats over Guillames based on extra damage vs the CB, not only that, the Resisitences + Skills also help etc.
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Quote (bloodywanker89 @ 31 Mar 2016 15:52)
The truth is there is no such thing as a "perfect char"


Not with your builds.
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Mar 31 2016 11:55am
It would be very helpful if you guys could also post what you consider the best build. Instead of talking about what's wrong and what's wrong (which is of course VERY interesting and important), why not show what's right as well ;)

izParagonzi I've read some of your arguing about Phoenix and you should already notice some good players actually use SS on Chaos barbs and they do pretty fine. We can discuss about which one's better, but please stop your unlogical reasoning about "SS on a berserk barb = didn't read the berserk skill overview". Yes people know it. That for ~1,1s after using berserk defense is 0. But also, it's NOT zero (and it's fckn huge because of shouts) every other second besife 1,1s after AND 75% block remains all the time. Which yes, triggers block (duh...), but also lovers physical dmg 100% which tends to be helpful.

I'd really like this discussion to be about which gear/stat/strategy is better and not about who is stupid. Too many people are stupid, get used to it. And either using SS nor Phoenix isn't 1) "absolutely the best and only option), 2) "stupid stupid stupid for noobs" and 3) "you must be an idiot". Can we all grow up for a little while please? :) I'm sure we can. Thanks!
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