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Sep 2 2014 12:02pm
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he already does that LOL


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Sep 3 2014 09:27am
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It's awfully ironic and hilarious how people bash C/T on the ladder and then want to learn it :rofl:


That's because those that chose not to use it, get frustrated with how effective it is in conjunction with desynch
If you charge forward right before your desynch updates and c/t, you can get a good GA namelock when it looks to them like you are 3 screens off

I don't mind it but after mediating enough matches, I'll say that the ladder would be better off if everyone agreed to not use c/t
It should be banned for reasons of sport but there is no way to really enforce it
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That's because those that chose not to use it, get frustrated with how effective it is in conjunction with desynch
If you charge forward right before your desynch updates and c/t, you can get a good GA namelock when it looks to them like you are 3 screens off

I don't mind it but after mediating enough matches, I'll say that the ladder would be better off if everyone agreed to not use c/t
It should be banned for reasons of sport but there is no way to really enforce it


wsg , synch , teleport c/t allowed in all other ladders , but this "special" community like to water down the rules because they suck so bad and can't adapt

it is sad lol, truly sad.
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Sep 3 2014 10:08am
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wsg , synch , teleport c/t allowed in all other ladders , but this "special" community like to water down the rules because they suck so bad and can't adapt

it is sad lol, truly sad.


Perfect way to put it.
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Sep 3 2014 03:58pm
Quote (JuVHunT @ Sep 3 2014 03:29pm)
wsg , synch , teleport c/t allowed in all other ladders , but this "special" community like to water down the rules because they suck so bad and can't adapt

it is sad lol, truly sad.


LMAO AGREED
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Sep 3 2014 06:16pm
how to use c/t:

open stat or skill tree

move your mouse

how to learn to use c/t:

use it more often and you'll eventually learn

i dont play bowas but hope it helped
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Sep 3 2014 11:51pm
Quote (JuVHunT @ Sep 3 2014 10:29am)
wsg , synch , teleport c/t allowed in all other ladders , but this "special" community like to water down the rules because they suck so bad and can't adapt

it is sad lol, truly sad.


FPK dueling became it's own bracket away from the general dueling rules "it even outlawed actual classes"
ZvZ is no different in this aspect ~ an environment with no teleport, that is primarily all long range missile projectile play
In this case, we want to be able to see each other more easily so the matches aren't like playing battleship
In any try-hard rank #1 ZvZ match-up, the problems with desynching and C/Ting is that it elongates the match to unreasonable lengths "some people don't have 2-3 hours to defend a slot each night"
With C/Ting being viable, no one wants to take a risk of getting close so they play the invisible pot shot game with each other and disappear around the map to cause confusion ~ this is harsh and time demanding, especially for the poor guy who is mediating
If C/T is agreed to not be used, the matches go faster "honestly they do"

The rules of any same class vs same class ladder are tweaked by those who often play those match-ups so that the match-ups remain kosher and have less exploitations
In the case of ZvZ "special rules" they are mostly designed to shorten the lengths of the matches, it isn't just random points of view from random players
They are written rules that have been being debated over for years now in BowaPK and every time it is brought to attention, things are tweaked slightly or remain the same, depending on majority vote ~ by the people who ZvZ the most in this game

Again, from the standpoint of a mediator I am saying that any ZvZ ladder would be better off without the use of C/T, mainly because of demands on player time
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Sep 3 2014 11:56pm
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FPK dueling became it's own bracket away from the general dueling rules "it even outlawed actual classes"
ZvZ is no different in this aspect ~ an environment with no teleport, that is primarily all long range missile projectile play
In this case, we want to be able to see each other more easily so the matches aren't like playing battleship
In any try-hard rank #1 ZvZ match-up, the problems with desynching and C/Ting is that it elongates the match to unreasonable lengths "some people don't have 2-3 hours to defend a slot each night"
With C/Ting being viable, no one wants to take a risk of getting close so they play the invisible pot shot game with each other and disappear around the map to cause confusion ~ this is harsh and time demanding, especially for the poor guy who is mediating
If C/T is agreed to not be used, the matches go faster "honestly they do"

The rules of any same class vs same class ladder are tweaked by those who often play those match-ups so that the match-ups remain kosher and have less exploitations
In the case of ZvZ "special rules" they are mostly designed to shorten the lengths of the matches, it isn't just random points of view from random players
They are written rules that have been being debated over for years now in BowaPK and every time it is brought to attention, things are tweaked slightly or remain the same, depending on majority vote ~ by the people who ZvZ the most in this game

Again, from the standpoint of a mediator I am saying that any ZvZ ladder would be better off without the use of C/T, mainly because of demands on player time


Pretty sure lllcBklll raped sutton in 20 minutes 5-0 using c/t press...While sutton (literally the worst mechanically inclined zon of all time) ran with ow and multi l8z)

It's just funny lol , how does this garbage zon defend ever when all he does is l8z and multi..Oh ya cuz he cares more than anyone

I didn't read your essay but the zvz ladder is the biggest joke. The only good mod on that entire ladder is Lolrage
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