you forget about the STR bug we have to avoid in AoW

I got 264 in total for example

I can wear a forti SA w/o problems for example

just missing the dex then, because i sold my diadem & bugbelt xD

This post was edited by Breee on Jul 28 2014 02:15pm

Str bug should be avoided if you have enough str on switch, isnt it?
I was talking about ffa anyways, in aow i have 30more str from botd and have str on armour as well.
Botd+amor means at least 48str that you won't need to wear your sa. In ffa you have grief+forti so you n to stat 232-185=47 vita pts in str and you have to see if its worth it to lose all that life for some added def/ed.
Its basically the only thing you have to think about when making such barb coz the rest of the gear (except inv) is super standard, thats why i mentioned that.

well i calc it like this:

str req / str given for my stuff is:

ring +20 str
Helm 118 str (+ 18 str jool)
Storm 156 str req (+39 str from item & jool)
Steels 185 str req (+20 str)
SA 188 str req (+9 str)

total str from items if i sum it up + lowest str req (the helm)

118 + 18 + 20 + 39 + 20 +9
= 224 str
+ 20 str ANNI
+ 20 str Torch
264 str in total necessary

I always stat with 2 windows, so i can be pretty sure about this ^^


yes, str bug can be avoided if you got alot of str on your switch, BUT.. i recognized often on people who statted with this method,
their Armor gets bugged again, sometimes during the duels., especially if you distance yourself too much from the other barb.

this has something to to with the charms (anni,torch)..
as from your side the charms get calculated in first, you meet the requirements, no bug for you ofc
from others players sight the charms get calculated in at last, so it looks for them like you could not wear the armor.
I can explain this more detailed if you want

This post was edited by Breee on Jul 28 2014 03:02pm

thats not how you calc str bug, idk where you got that from

30base+str on non bugged items, that has to be > str req of your items in order to AVOID str bug

on switch you have a max of 100 str (and clubs are not str bugged ofc) so you can wear anything there and those items wont be str bugged
30base+100=130str -> you wear your slayer guard without bug -> 148str -> you can switch gear and wear stormshield without bug -> 187str -> steelrend -> 207 -> armour. If you use botd or a ring its even easier, while anni and torch have nothing to do with this calc.

at that point youll be str bugged only if you go offscreen and flash one of your pieces but i dont think youll end up doing that during a duel ^^

This post was edited by UberMensh on Jul 28 2014 03:22pm

with you method you will be bugged again if you went offscreen until you Switch weapons.. if i Stat like this i Save 10 str exactly.

I Stat with 2 windows, and before i don't reach 264 str with normal statting(not switching) the items are bugged.

Best way to avoid str Bug w/o a Second CD Key, is statting STR w/o torch and anni.

this always worked for me^^

This post was edited by Breee on Jul 28 2014 03:31pm

well thats some good way to lose life for no reason...

im not really sure how it works when you go offscreen, but if you really get bugged without doing anything all you need to do is re-enter your opponent's mini map with bo gear on and switch to weap+ss once you see him. You would have 176str on your gear without adds, even when you stat 31pts to use armour (thats why botd is superior to eth-self-fools weapons unless they are 2sox) you want to waste 47 pts in str?
Thats like 450life you lose there just coz you dont want to switch gear when you go offscreen? Its not like itll happen so often in duels anyways...

just tested it again, statted on 2 screens.
All you loose to avoid it save, is 10 vita.. with massive switching to my 100 str switch.
254 str instead of 264, as i said^^
with botd i need the same STR, but i got ~400 life more in the end

i don't know a better method as this^^

This post was edited by Breee on Jul 29 2014 12:07am

Well i didn't get what your gear is then ^^
Don't you have to cover str from 207 (where you're able to wear armour) to 264?

basically the one i got on my profile,
just with a perf raven instead of the Repl life ring.
and 2 soc fools cb instead of the 1 soc cb

This post was edited by Breee on Jul 29 2014 03:21am

So you have 176str from gear, as i said it takes 31pts to wear your sa, and from there you statted 47 more pts to avoid str bug...