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edit. btw i use 15fcr+amu,shako(shael),arach,trangloves,fcring+raven on my ghost is that bad?
i really like 10dr (nn so much points into fade) huge mana and life boost, also i have about 8 skill points and i maxed all + 1 point skills where should i put them ?
shadowmaser,df or claw block ?
Are you serious? or? ^^


well tell my reasons why 3/20/2 is ALOT (i dont buy it now because im short on fg -.-) better than shako(u seem to end with the same fhr only problem is ias but i can live with that:P),i used shako alot on my pure trapper it gives shitload of mana(very important imo) ,life +10dr (tiber gave me that advice so dont call me noob ^^)
i have 20fcr amu + decent fcr ring with stats,life res i have alot better life thx to it and second raven isnt really needed except vs blizzers but with decent stack+ 1raven+claw block its really no needed (ofc i can use circlets but give me good reason to buy one i will lose about 300++ life, mana and i will need to put more points into fade )
Ya, you miss out on IAS, which is pretty important to me. The extra shadow skill is just nice for AR, mind-blast and Venom (if you don't prebuff that is). Things I don't like about using an amulet+ring is that you'll probably have horrible AR and you drop 2 frames instead of one when wearing angelics. I don't value the DR on shako, since a ghost has enough skill points anyway.

Getting a decent fcr amu + ring combo is frickin' hard aswell =\

ps; why can't I call you noob cuz of tib? ^^
pps; In case you where talking about a hybrid... you pretty much disregard everything Ive said ^^

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edit. btw i use 15fcr+amu,shako(shael),arach,trangloves,fcring+raven on my ghost is that bad?
i really like 10dr (nn so much points into fade) huge mana and life boost, also i have about 8 skill points and i maxed all + 1 point skills where should i put them ?
shadowmaser,df or claw block ?
Are you serious? or? ^^


well tell my reasons why 3/20/2 is ALOT (i dont buy it now because im short on fg -.-) better than shako(u seem to end with the same fhr only problem is ias but i can live with that:P),i used shako alot on my pure trapper it gives shitload of mana(very important imo) ,life +10dr (tiber gave me that advice so dont call me noob ^^)
i have 20fcr amu + decent fcr ring with stats,life res i have alot better life thx to it and second raven isnt really needed except vs blizzers but with decent stack+ 1raven+claw block its really no needed (ofc i can use circlets but give me good reason to buy one i will lose about 300++ life, mana and i will need to put more points into fade )

Ya, you miss out on IAS, which is pretty important to me. The extra shadow skill is just nice for AR, mind-blast and Venom (if you don't prebuff that is). Things I don't like about using an amulet+ring is that you'll probably have horrible AR and you drop 2 frames instead of one when wearing angelics. I don't value the DR on shako, since a ghost has enough skill points anyway.

Getting a decent fcr amu + ring combo is frickin' hard aswell =\

ps; why can't I call you noob cuz of tib? ^^
pps; In case you where talking about a hybrid... you pretty much disregard everything Ive said ^^


y it was for pure ghost ^ on hybrid i wouldnt use shako xD
well ar isnt problem for me 6,5k is enough to hit casters and i have fools claws(2um)+ anglic if need vs those with huge def
one of the biggest problems of ghosts(vs def casters) is mana and i just like the big support from shako + ring ;/
well i thought about that and i realized that 3/20/2 would be better but its pretty hard to get and expensive i will stick to shako i play her only for fun anyway tongue.gif

btw i thought about that what do u think which char is better pure ghostin
or hybrid with maxed venom,1into mastery,clawblock etc 1 points (or enough to get needed lvl) and rest into traps (but char would use shadow sks )
it would give me 6.5k++ traps as a support







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You have 6.5k with fcr amu/ring combo? You happen to use some AR sc's? or? mind giving the stats?
How many mana do you got btw?

I don't like hybrids... again because of their AR (they have to use fools 24/7 to have around 7k on one claw.. the other has like 3-4k =S ) and the fact that ~7K traps is absolute shit easy to counter. Just slap on a thundergods and you have a crippled ww-sin (ya, can be somewhat countered with prebuff, but meh.. prebuff sucks to do all the time). I also prefer lvl 40+ mind-blast ^^

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You have 6.5k with fcr amu/ring combo? You happen to use some AR sc's? or? mind giving the stats?
How many mana do you got btw?

I don't like hybrids... again because of their AR (they have to use fools 24/7 to have around 7k on one claw.. the other has like 3-4k =S ) and the fact that ~7K traps is absolute shit easy to counter. Just slap on a thundergods and you have a crippled ww-sin (ya, can be somewhat countered with prebuff, but meh.. prebuff sucks to do all the time). I also prefer lvl 40+ mind-blast ^^

PS; stickied muha


yes i use 20/3x ar scs from barb (and my fcr ring has 0 ar!)
i have around 880mana (but my amu is crappy ;/)
well i just asked i saw some calculations about ar thing on hybrid and the summary was its overated and that mastery isnt worth maxing, also 5k + ar on hybrid is easy to reach , i dueled yesterday vs hybrid with 7k trap dmg,tg softened dmg alot still traps are annoying and force to play offensive alot more than mb
i also like maxed mb but mostly because shadow cast it so often and difference in dmg between 20lvl mb and 40 is 100dmg (8 after pvp penalty and dr -.-)

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Ah, so what do you do vs v/t's / foh? You switch sc's? I use 7x 20/xx LR scs and 3 20/xx mana scs as standard. IIRC, I have ~800 mana aswell.. gotta check to be sure though. Btw; you happen to have some link about that 'shadow casts more often' thing? I've tested and tested all over, but couldn't conclude exactly that.
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Ah, so what do you do vs v/t's / foh? You switch sc's? I use 7x 20/xx LR scs and 3 20/xx mana scs as standard. IIRC, I have ~800 mana aswell.. gotta check to be sure though. Btw; you happen to have some link about that 'shadow casts more often' thing? I've tested and tested all over, but couldn't conclude exactly that.


hmm i saw once formula for skill lvl relation and %casts from shadow master but i lost it and i dont rememeber sad.gif
from my experience my friends shadow casts almost as often mb(mb on 25lvl) as my and i have 42 mb lvl

well its a ghetto sin and i cant afford decent scs/res for her ^ i usually try to stun (to not let him foh me xD)and force him go offense
y and i wrote it i think also that 3/20/2 is better but shako for welfare build isnt so bad as everyone tell imo ^^
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