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Jan 9 2012 10:34am
Quote (3Dimensional @ Jan 9 2012 08:51am)
No why Would it be that?
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Having just 10 res from your inv is lovely, specially in a tvt.

Borrowing items from teammates, and switching gear mid-duel?
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Jan 9 2012 03:13pm
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Having just 10 res from your inv is lovely, specially in a tvt.

Borrowing items from teammates, and switching gear mid-duel?


You do realise that in any setup i will need res i will have enoughe from the items? (and for your info there is 50 from inv - 20 anni 20 torch 10 from charms)

You seem to have no clue about how a duel work (borrow items and switching gear mid duel) U borrow the cta while boing (that is before the GO therefor not mid-duel)

Changing the storm for the beast on 2. slot takes arround 0.5 sec... its rather possible during a duel :)

More imputs from you pls, its fun!

This post was edited by 3Dimensional on Jan 9 2012 03:15pm
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Jan 9 2012 03:51pm
I agree mostly, just I don't like the circlet/griffon setups. I use to have coa ber/ber, arreat 9 dex+good adds, guilly.

I use bb but I find more useful to get some extra dr from coa with two ber, like when you use hybrid setups (with arach) or you are cursed by amplify dmg in tvt.

The only char I use to face with 63% fcr is soso 200% fcr. Otherwise 9,20,37 frames are enough to catch anything.

Also I'm not really "in" about the Oak thing. Maybe cause I (personally) find it lame on every char except on druid.

But, as example, when you face a nec and you got 37% fcr and good frw (from hl08 instead of valk), well, it think it's all you need. So I'd say dracs, gores, arak, 2 fcr rings, guilly, nigma, hl.

Also cause facing a good player with a mb nec is an impossibru duel, still from my point of view.

Have you forgot to mention fhr frames? 48% is the must and with a circlet you have to get mad to reach it..

About the mana scs...well...dunno...since they lowered 1/2 of the ww's mana cost, from the 1.11, I don't find em useful anymore.

Still agree on the rest :)
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Jan 9 2012 04:12pm
Quote (Darkal @ Jan 9 2012 09:51pm)
I agree mostly, just I don't like the circlet/griffon setups. I use to have coa ber/ber, arreat 9 dex+good adds, guilly.

I use bb but I find more useful to get some extra dr from coa with two ber, like when you use hybrid setups (with arach) or you are cursed by amplify dmg in tvt.

The only char I use to face with 63% fcr is soso 200% fcr. Otherwise 9,20,37 frames are enough to catch anything.

Also I'm not really "in" about the Oak thing. Maybe cause I (personally) find it lame on every char except on druid.

But, as example, when you face a nec and you got 37% fcr and good frw (from hl08 instead of valk), well, it think it's all you need. So I'd say dracs, gores, arak, 2 fcr rings, guilly, nigma, hl.

Also cause facing a good player with a mb nec is an impossibru duel, still from my point of view.

Have you forgot to mention fhr frames? 48% is the must and with a circlet you have to get mad to reach it..

About the mana scs...well...dunno...since they lowered 1/2 of the ww's mana cost, from the 1.11, I don't find em useful anymore.

Still agree on the rest :)


:) Well about the necs, i top nec will for sure win you, even a nonblock one who knows how to play :) But the oaks increase your chances ;)

And yes 48 is always a must and with cirk i used 2 shaels in it :)

about the mana, id prefer not to run out of mana during some close duels and then leaving me as an easy target :) but i loved the fact they lowered ww cost :D
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Jan 10 2012 03:50am
:) Soon there will be #1 TO psn nec setup
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Jan 10 2012 08:29am
Quote (3Dimensional @ Jan 9 2012 09:13pm)
You do realise that in any setup i will need res i will have enoughe from the items? (and for your info there is 50 from inv -  20 anni 20 torch 10 from charms)

You seem to have no clue about how a duel work (borrow items and switching gear mid duel) U borrow the cta while boing (that is before the GO therefor not mid-duel)

Changing the storm for the beast on 2. slot takes arround 0.5 sec... its rather possible during a duel :)

More imputs from you pls, its fun!


It's still retarded.

And yes, i have no idea how a duel works.

50 res from inv? that will sure save you from -150 conv! or -270 from blizz.

Also, stop PMing me.

This post was edited by bla_1 on Jan 10 2012 08:29am
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Jan 10 2012 10:28am
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It's still retarded.

And yes, i have no idea how a duel works.

50 res from inv? that will sure save you from -150 conv! or -270 from blizz.

Also, stop PMing me.

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This post was edited by Chimpo on Jan 10 2012 10:28am
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Jan 10 2012 10:30am
Quote (bla_1 @ 10 Jan 2012 16:29)
It's still retarded.

And yes, i have no idea how a duel works.

50 res from inv? that will sure save you from -150 conv! or -270 from blizz.

Also, stop PMing me.
yes omfg its really good vs the vicious foh/blizz team
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Jan 10 2012 10:31am
Quote (Darkal @ Jan 9 2012 10:51pm)
I agree mostly, just I don't like the circlet/griffon setups. I use to have coa ber/ber, arreat 9 dex+good adds, guilly.

I use bb but I find more useful to get some extra dr from coa with two ber, like when you use hybrid setups (with arach) or you are cursed by amplify dmg in tvt.

The only char I use to face with 63% fcr is soso 200% fcr. Otherwise 9,20,37 frames are enough to catch anything.

Also I'm not really "in" about the Oak thing. Maybe cause I (personally) find it lame on every char except on druid.

But, as example, when you face a nec and you got 37% fcr and good frw (from hl08 instead of valk), well, it think it's all you need. So I'd say dracs, gores, arak, 2 fcr rings, guilly, nigma, hl.

Also cause facing a good player with a mb nec is an impossibru duel, still from my point of view.

Have you forgot to mention fhr frames? 48% is the must and with a circlet you have to get mad to reach it..

About the mana scs...well...dunno...since they lowered 1/2 of the ww's mana cost, from the 1.11, I don't find em useful anymore.

Still agree on the rest :)


63 is a must vs any decent player
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Jan 10 2012 10:41am
i modified my build with few items to test yours. This is probably the best TPK built.

I don't like the massive life i lose for 1n1's due to mass base dex on this built, but i like it a lot for tvt and and since thats what i play mostly lately, its gg.

As we talked ill do myself few canges t try to save base dexterity
like 40/9dex arreats and 30ed/7fhr/9dex + shael circ, thats extra 9x4= 36 extra base life = 1xx extra overall life at all times.

Another option is using dancers for maxblock setups allowing to save 25dex = 100 base life, but then you arent able to switch to hots in tvt while maxblock. :( (and ofc lose ds/ow from gores). So i wont do that.

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you guys should listen to one of the best barbs on eu instead of criticising without any clue.

About the resist, you can reach any needed max resist with that stuff, included multiple maxed resist. you can wear 2x ravens + highlords + tgods + spurs at the same time even with maxblock for multiple elemental oponents. Thats one of the strong points of this built given; the felixibility it offers.
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