my hammerdin shits on this pala izi

you should list the rules you plan on following!

Just realised, on this build I was menna put all the jewels as 40 ed 15 ias ( to hit the 113 ias bp for legendary mallet ).

But, after looking at it again, I remembered about this item http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=37092361&f=103

Imo a build using a scepter like that would be the best, something like .. :

fools seraph rod w/ 2* Lo
prudence sacred armour eth.
stormshield ( w/ jewel you had )
10% DS visio w/ 2*jewel you made
steelrends
highlords
raven
crafted ring
gores
dungo's.

edc set up ( using fort ) vs edc set up ( using phoneix )

rends = 281 def, 60ed
sa fort ( its the only fort i will use )= 1908 def, 300ed 148 life ( non bo able ), 232str req
visionary helm ( 2 x 40-15ias ) = 80 ed 706 def
SS = 519def when 99 lvl
ammy rings angle set
boots upped gore def 213
belt dungo def 148
no str add from gear to hit 156 str ( wearing ss ), after u use ss ( uwill got 30str from ss, 20 str from rends ) u still need to add 26 str for amour

total ed = 440ed
total def = 3775
stats = -27 to wear amour
life = 148 ( non bo able )

rare gloves = 198def 15 str 13 dex 10 ar ( on my profile )
eupped shaft 2422 60life ( bo able )
visionary helm 706def cham ber
st phoneix 465ed 121ar 50life (bo able) 182 def
ammy ring angle set
boots upped gore def 213
belt dungo 148def

total ed = 465ed
total def = 3869
stats + 27
life = 110 ( bo able ) , after bo it will more than 176
ar 131
lower block rate than ss

for me i will use phoneix cause it have more life more dmg more ar and def.

and there are alot of build can beat edc phoneix / fort set up, no best set up on zeal vs zeal

i had try use under 5.6k max set up to beat alot of ppl

This post was edited by skylouie on Dec 30 2011 08:20am

I wonder about "GM" in Zeal vs Zeal.

I understand Life tap is prohibited (discarding Draculs and Exile).

What about charges ?
What about Grief ?
What about ctc Amp or Maiden ?
What about poison charms (in case Grief is not an option) ?
What about slow target / freeze (Doom ? Arach ? etc)

all banned.



this is realy funny to calc whit

i've always preferred the following:

rare seraph rod (same mods as the zerk in OP with 3 fanat 3 zeal added)
blood craft gloves
up'd shaft
DS craft helm Ber/Ber
rare eth/rep paladin elite shield (vortex or sacred targe, defense vs hp, i usually go for s.targe personally) Ber + 30/9/9/60 or double 30/9/9/60 if you're ok with being at 46 dr (i used the double jewel over ber + jewel)
OW craft belt
up'd gores
HL + raven + blood craft ring

36/20's to get your ar around 28.5k, rest 3/20/20

i went for 28.5 against anything that wasnt an eth stone or prudence setup, against those i tried to get around 31-32k AR

i think a cham is a better option over dropping on of the crafted rings since they add so much life
and i dont think that hits the ias bp for 4fpa with a mallet, iirc its 114 or 113 so you need to hit 115 which would be 40 wep + 20 hl + 20 gloves + 30 helm + 15 shield yes? this is with a lv 28 fanat after bc from cta

im thinking a larger amount of damage + defense would be the best option, but using the mallet would sacrifice damage else where (jewels and rends etc.) if i wanted 4fpa.

If this is incorrect though let me know.

corrected this in post 23

Ok with the eshaft and phoenix swapped in, everything else the same i get,


3.360-11,600ish dmg
24021 ar
30737 def
4708 life

if i go for more damage less life (pump str)
i get

Same stats but life is 3675 and damage is 3760-13,020 ish

in my own opinion the raise in damage is not as good as the loss of over 1k life
ofc i can adjust this but i still think from melee experience that 1k life is worth a lot more than 1k max and 400 min


Regardless though it looks like phoenix is taking the cake so far

This post was edited by ]GS[ Controller on Dec 30 2011 04:22pm