And isn't titan builds designed to do high dmg?

your obviously dumb so don't waste time responding like this.....


u cba to explain since u cant understand...

last time i checked even with a titan build regardless of a botd or duel grief weapon, points in str = ed that can be added to these weapons???


I mean if u think a big screen number = the end all u clearly don't know anything....

Now someone plz tell me why a 2 hand TM Botd missing max frame wwbp is superior to a duel grief setup??

This post was edited by halo273 on Nov 17 2011 03:54pm

I prefer ebotdgp over all for 2 handed ww barb. Yes the damage is very nice and eth reapers merc is the best option for a ww barb's merc. But some of the gear I would disagree with. Since your build has 50% cb I am guessing you use loh am I correct? For a ww barb I would rather use 60/20 rends so I get 10% more cb and 80% ed to all. I like more balance in damage not just 1 specific group of monsters but yes boss monsters are demons.

I prefer the ebotdgp build over the x2 grief pb build but the x2 grief pb build does more average damage.

This is usually a good rule of thumb.




In all fairness of the both arguments have valid points ;
If your a noob as you say, you probably shouldn't be jumping on a titan barb. The cookie cutter is tried and true for a reason. Master the class and build first.

I'm with OD for all but titan play, who get additional benefit from mace class .

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Nov 17 2011 04:04pm

if u want to use 2 hand use botd gpa or ghost spear... since the extra dmg TM deals does not justify missing a hitcheck for and the lack of dmg is easily made up and surpassed by getting that 4th frame hitcheck landing.. plus ofc range is not bad thing either

duel grief deals themost dmg overall, still have not seen a reasonable argument to prove me wrong ... and tbh yeah im open to be proved wrong since u can learn new things everyday.. all ive seen is a response from an idiot and some justifiable arguments from Master_Zappy

and finally botd TM deals the highest MAX dmg but misses fastest wwbp since in simple terms all attacks in the game have bps like for hammer the optimum bp is 125% fcr for smite 6 fps smite is the fastest whirlwind is the same and require 4 fps to hit fastest ww bp thus allowing an extra hitcheck which is potential more dmg barring all factor like Chance to hit/ block..

This post was edited by halo273 on Nov 17 2011 04:10pm

how about you stick to your shitty assa knowledge and keep out of barb threads, moron.

grief can be outweighed in dmg not just in ww, but in frenzy, conc and berserk, mainly using 2h death g-axe and tweaking the build around a bit.

as you can't understand the fact that the overall off ed on titan builds renders grief's further dmg output unnecessary thus making them safer wielding a 2hander botd ye, then i'm obviously too stupid yet you're the one who can't put 2 and 2 together.

you should'a just stayed faded, bro. your e-pride and pseudo knowledge don't cut it here anymore.

You are forgetting the fact that ebotdgp covers more of the screen so you can kill more monsters on the screen and ebotdgp kills very fast either way although its not the highest damage weapon. Covering more of the screen is much better imo because you kill more monsters that way. With dual grief pbs you do not get that kind of range which is the downfall of the dual grief pb build. So its a trade off between more damage and less range vs less damage and more range. So what would you choose? That is what you need to answer yourself.

i could care less for the range.

lets talk about just 1 mob. so range won't be an issue.

so what if TM doesn't hit (doesn't actually have, to be more accurate) the last ww fpa? even with that "slower" weapon it still 1 hit ko's everything in the game. so why not get more leech? it's a titan barb, and in hardcore.

pfft. in everything regarding hc i've analyzed the crap out of sarah's comments, and found little things to argue over. when it comes down to hc, she knows her field better than anyone. even me.

another classical answer

much expected in this forum

please tell me how this is relevant?

but u still have not answered my question..

How does a 2 hand weapon missing fastest wwbp deal more dmg overall to a mob vs a duelwielding grief with combined higher avg dmg and 95% cth each weapon baring in mind duelwielding equals 2x the hitchecks and both weapons have capabilites to hit with cb + ds ?

like i said the only logical weapons are ebotd gpa and ghost spear... + as mentioned u gain some range which can be usefull

This post was edited by halo273 on Nov 17 2011 04:30pm