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#21
Dec 5 2006 12:05am
Ask all my godly melee friends if i have enough AR to clown you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We go Pub or Priv and clean all games out......................
We even hold Priv Tournis were you can win items or runes...
If your Elite then u can come to our priv games.......
See Zeal is were its at.......
Oh and i wish someone would bring a caster to one or our priv tournis ROFL.............



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#22
Dec 5 2006 12:07am
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Oh and i wish someone would bring a caster to one or our priv tournis ROFL.............

Wu mean, hammerdin would decimate you all easily.
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Dec 5 2006 03:25am
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Oh and i wish someone would bring a caster to one or our priv tournis ROFL.............

Wu mean, hammerdin would decimate you all easily.


I thought this was a build guide not a comparsion guide hence the game elite ZEAL duel. Jay your guide Rocks, remaking my Zealot with alot of you suggestions. ty. check ot my post i need a little help with the whole armor topic.
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#24
Dec 5 2006 07:26am
nice guide, this will go ever well in gm zeal vs zeal
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Dec 6 2006 08:31pm
This is a comment for everybody talking crap about jay's build. My zealer is Elite-Zeal and i am also regarded as top 5 zealer on useast. ANYBODY that says that fort or grief is better than the equipment that he wears come duel me or him. You will get smoked. I use ebotdz also and i wear eshaft. Fort has no dr and low defense and grief just sucks for zeal. Make a zealer for grief then come duel us. I'm not being arrogant its just years of experience making zealers. You may think you do more damage with grief or fort but if any of you watch football what wins games? Defense (actual defense, life, damage reduction). My zealer has 56.8k defense with my circ and 62.4k defense when i wear Eth Andy's. Jay still hits me sufficiently and with all that damage, even with 3.8k life he still kills me. Some days i beat him more and some days he beats me more, thats just how zeal works. His guide was well written from somebody who knows how to build an elite zvz good mannered zealer. And remember i'm not trying to be a butthole its just that i can't stand it when people say grief or fort are better to wear or botd sucks, why do you wear ravens instead of angelics blah blah blah. I have never lost to a grief or fort zealer. But i have lost to jay.
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Dec 6 2006 10:03pm
Quote (D)ark_E(lipse @ Wed, Dec 6 2006, 10:31pm)
This is a comment for everybody talking crap about jay's build.  My zealer is Elite-Zeal and i am also regarded as top 5 zealer on useast.  ANYBODY that says that fort or grief is better than the equipment that he wears come duel me or him.  You will get smoked.  I use ebotdz also and i wear eshaft.  Fort has no dr and low defense and grief just sucks for zeal.  Make a zealer for grief then come duel us.  I'm not being arrogant its just years of experience making zealers.  You may think you do more damage with grief or fort but if any of you watch football what wins games?  Defense (actual defense, life, damage reduction).  My zealer has 56.8k defense with my circ and 62.4k defense when i wear Eth Andy's.  Jay still hits me sufficiently and with all that damage, even with 3.8k life he still kills me.  Some days i beat him more and some days he beats me more, thats just how zeal works.  His guide was well written from somebody who knows how to build an elite zvz good mannered zealer.  And remember i'm not trying to be a butthole its just that i can't stand it when people say grief or fort are better to wear or botd sucks, why do you wear ravens instead of angelics blah blah blah.  I have never lost to a grief or fort zealer.  But i have lost to jay.


I don`t see how botd can be better than grief. Ok, it gives you about 250 more life(with bo) but the dmg output is considerably lower. Instead of using rends as he does, I`d use ias/cb/double stats gloves to reach the same bp with griefz. I understand grief is considered bm, but is it really worse than botd?
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#27
Dec 6 2006 10:19pm
Quote (D)ark_E(lipse @ Thu, Dec 7 2006, 02:31am)
This is a comment for everybody talking crap about jay's build.  My zealer is Elite-Zeal and i am also regarded as top 5 zealer on useast.  ANYBODY that says that fort or grief is better than the equipment that he wears come duel me or him.  You will get smoked.  I use ebotdz also and i wear eshaft.  Fort has no dr and low defense and grief just sucks for zeal.  Make a zealer for grief then come duel us.  I'm not being arrogant its just years of experience making zealers.  You may think you do more damage with grief or fort but if any of you watch football what wins games?  Defense (actual defense, life, damage reduction).  My zealer has 56.8k defense with my circ and 62.4k defense when i wear Eth Andy's.  Jay still hits me sufficiently and with all that damage, even with 3.8k life he still kills me.  Some days i beat him more and some days he beats me more, thats just how zeal works.  His guide was well written from somebody who knows how to build an elite zvz good mannered zealer.  And remember i'm not trying to be a butthole its just that i can't stand it when people say grief or fort are better to wear or botd sucks, why do you wear ravens instead of angelics blah blah blah.  I have never lost to a grief or fort zealer.  But i have lost to jay.


Name someone not on your friends list who would say you're top 5 east. I've never even heard of you, so I'm praying you're on ladder where there is ZERO competition.
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#28
Dec 7 2006 12:36am
Quote (Kuskid @ Thu, Dec 7 2006, 04:19am)
Quote (D)ark_E(lipse @ Thu, Dec 7 2006, 02:31am)
This is a comment for everybody talking crap about jay's build.  My zealer is Elite-Zeal and i am also regarded as top 5 zealer on useast.  ANYBODY that says that fort or grief is better than the equipment that he wears come duel me or him.  You will get smoked.  I use ebotdz also and i wear eshaft.  Fort has no dr and low defense and grief just sucks for zeal.  Make a zealer for grief then come duel us.  I'm not being arrogant its just years of experience making zealers.  You may think you do more damage with grief or fort but if any of you watch football what wins games?  Defense (actual defense, life, damage reduction).  My zealer has 56.8k defense with my circ and 62.4k defense when i wear Eth Andy's.  Jay still hits me sufficiently and with all that damage, even with 3.8k life he still kills me.  Some days i beat him more and some days he beats me more, thats just how zeal works.  His guide was well written from somebody who knows how to build an elite zvz good mannered zealer.  And remember i'm not trying to be a butthole its just that i can't stand it when people say grief or fort are better to wear or botd sucks, why do you wear ravens instead of angelics blah blah blah.  I have never lost to a grief or fort zealer.  But i have lost to jay.


Name someone not on your friends list who would say you're top 5 east. I've never even heard of you, so I'm praying you're on ladder where there is ZERO competition.


1. He already said he was on ladder

2. Because most ladder people suck doesnt mean you can shove this aside

3. Everyone who simply said Greif=Noob Dmg is not the only factor in melee duels Def/Life/Atr

4. Everyone who bit his Atr is your def that high? His def is higher and his atr is lower deal with it and learn to melee

5. Lol to everyone who thought this was shitty its called GM melee and no your smiter isnt allowed noobs.

6. Gratz on the build I hadnt thought about using Templars although I might test something now that I have your stats.
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#29
Dec 7 2006 08:22pm
vouch jays build, his zealot ownz..this is Shining_Path..and ROFL @ those who say grief is better than ebotdz for zeal if u want proof pm me game name and ill own ur grief zealer with botdz
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#30
Dec 7 2006 09:39pm
hectic man too bad ppl crywn about everythen ur tryen to say

why dont they duel u b4 bragz and remarks lol then they would stfu
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