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This Barbarian is completely based on Amplifying Damage to get a pure balance between life, damage and attack rating. Once this is achieved the Barbarian then reaches insane damage limits due to a 100% Chance of Deadly Strike. What most people do not know is how Strength works in building damage. Unlike “Grief”, which is not affected by Damage Multipliers in any way, shape or form due to the +400 Damage being calculated after a full hit and then added after PvP penalties – EDC receives full Damage Multipliers from Strength. Each point of strength is equal to 1% Global Enhanced Damage. This means all Damage Additive items will be multiplied by your total Strength percent. For example, my Barbarian has 400 Strength. This results in all of my charms being multiplied by 400%, my weapons being multiplied by 400%, my War Travelers Damage Amplifier of 15 - 25 to be multiplied by 400% etc. Basically you receive hundreds of extra damage points and even thousands by trying to use as much additive strength gear as possible. Also keep in mind that any additive damage gear you use is also multiplied by the Global Affect of “Beast” Fanatacism. So an item like War Travelers adding 15 - 25 damage also gets multiplied by the 186% Damage Multiplier that a level 9 Fanatacism adds. So in total, you receive 586% Damage Amplification to your Weapons, Charms and any other damage received from items. On top of this percent, EDC and “Beast” are both multiplied by Whirlwind and Axe Mastery. The way these skills work is by multiplying base Weapon damage. Since “Grief” has additive damage that is calculated after PvP penalties, it is unaffected by both Axe Mastery and Whirlwind Damage multipliers. Finally, you can vary between 75 Base Strength up to 90 Base Strength. You will be nearly balanced no matter how much between these two variables you invest. This is a personal choice.


you're saying the enhanced damage from axe mastery and whirlwind doesn't boost the damage you get from grief at all?
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Jan 29 2011 02:34pm
Quote (Jumbojeebs @ 29 Jan 2011 22:29)
Testing it is pointless. Arreat Summit is known to be ridden with flaws since it's edited according to e-mails from people and D2 players tend to be idiots. And btw, hit testing is pointless, as it is affected by CTH and you would need to have a few hundred thousand hits to get to half-decent levels of accuracy. Willing to do 500,000 hits for me?




Again, how would you then explain the HUGE damage that Grief adds to Smite? Or the fact that Smite does ANY damage at all, since the shields only have about 50 average damage and, according to you, Holy Shield does not affect this.



1,362 after PvP penalty turns out to about 200 damage, about 100 after 50% PDR. Pathetic. And since it's maximum, it needs to be halved for consistency, so you're looking at 50-100 more damage. Pathetic.

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The PvP scene hasn't changed in years..only difference now is a lot of the 'good' players don't play anymore.

Nice well thought out Guide Tudey..I stick to Sin/Nec so I won't way in on the drama haha..


then explain me why people rarely used foh as stun effect on hammer back in the days?

now its common as fuck since people are just running the mainstream

thats just one example...
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Quote (duffman316 @ 29 Jan 2011 22:32)
you're saying the enhanced damage from axe mastery and whirlwind doesn't boost the damage you get from grief at all?


You can test it easily. Let your char eat token and see dmg before maxing mastery and ww B)
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Jan 29 2011 02:36pm
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nice
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Jan 29 2011 02:36pm
Leap doesn't stun, it knockbacks
+ if you have good ping, ww at right is far better since you won't lose time to switch ww/zerk

You could have mentioned show items tip also
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Quote (duffman316 @ 29 Jan 2011 22:32)
you're saying the enhanced damage from axe mastery and whirlwind doesn't boost the damage you get from grief at all?


“Grief”, which is not affected by Damage Multipliers in any way, shape or form due to the +400 Damage being calculated after a full hit and then added after PvP penalties – EDC receives full Damage Multipliers from Strength. Each point of strength is equal to 1% Global Enhanced Damage. This means all Damage Additive items will be multiplied by your total Strength percent. For example, my Barbarian has 400 Strength. This results in all of my charms being multiplied by 400%, my weapons being multiplied by 400%, my War Travelers Damage Amplifier of 15 - 25 to be multiplied by 400% etc. Basically you receive hundreds of extra damage points and even thousands by trying to use as much additive strength gear as possible. Also keep in mind that any additive damage gear you use is also multiplied by the Global Affect of “Beast” Fanatacism. So an item like War Travelers adding 15 - 25 damage also gets multiplied by the 186% Damage Multiplier that a level 9 Fanatacism adds. So in total, you receive 586% Damage Amplification to your Weapons, Charms and any other damage received from items. On top of this percent, EDC and “Beast” are both multiplied by Whirlwind and Axe Mastery. The way these skills work is by multiplying base Weapon damage. Since “Grief” has additive damage that is calculated after PvP penalties, it is unaffected by both Axe Mastery and Whirlwind Damage multipliers. Finally, you can vary between 75 Base Strength up to 90 Base Strength. You will be nearly balanced no matter how much between these two variables you invest. This is a personal choice.
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Jan 29 2011 02:37pm
miss the part "Wat to do if i meet Xorand or Fnk mother in pub game?"
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Jan 29 2011 02:38pm
Tudey=master troller :hug:
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“Grief”, which is not affected by Damage Multipliers in any way, shape or form due to the +400 Damage being calculated after a full hit and then added after PvP penalties – EDC receives full Damage Multipliers from Strength. Each point of strength is equal to 1% Global Enhanced Damage. This means all Damage Additive items will be multiplied by your total Strength percent. For example, my Barbarian has 400 Strength. This results in all of my charms being multiplied by 400%, my weapons being multiplied by 400%, my War Travelers Damage Amplifier of 15 - 25 to be multiplied by 400% etc. Basically you receive hundreds of extra damage points and even thousands by trying to use as much additive strength gear as possible. Also keep in mind that any additive damage gear you use is also multiplied by the Global Affect of “Beast” Fanatacism. So an item like War Travelers adding 15 - 25 damage also gets multiplied by the 186% Damage Multiplier that a level 9 Fanatacism adds. So in total, you receive 586% Damage Amplification to your Weapons, Charms and any other damage received from items. On top of this percent, EDC and “Beast” are both multiplied by Whirlwind and Axe Mastery. The way these skills work is by multiplying base Weapon damage. Since “Grief” has additive damage that is calculated after PvP penalties, it is unaffected by both Axe Mastery and Whirlwind Damage multipliers. Finally, you can vary between 75 Base Strength up to 90 Base Strength. You will be nearly balanced no matter how much between these two variables you invest. This is a personal choice.



thats wrong mate man
that not how it works
grief is better than edc
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