Krembanan's Windforce With Faith Rouge Guide - Topic

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#21

Dec 21 2006 10:31am

Quote (TheUndyingGod @ Mon, 18 Dec 2006, 23:14)

Low life+shit evades?? Rest seems gg

Low life yes. You get more damage with more dexterity, why waste points in life when you are a ranged attacker? You dont get hit much and the few times it happens you have high damage and high life leech

Surviveability.
Shit evades.. well, this is PvM and as said in the guide: your Valkyrie and decoy are your defense and shield, they are the ones that should get hit. Practice placing the decoy and summon the Valk in the right places, this is why you dont need to spend points to get high D/E/A.

Quote (LilRed2 @ Thu, 21 Dec 2006, 14:40)

Nice guide. Tho maxing strafe seems a bit overkill. Specially difficult if you have a dodge or avoid triggering at the beginning of the animation. Wont ever strafe when getting crowded for that reason. Better is to have higher evades, dodge and avoid and use multi as your main skill imho.

About D/E/A skills, read above. When swarmed, its my belive that strafe is better than Multishot. This because its faster, and all procs are carried with all arrows. All arrows will pierce, much more and faster life leech, amplify damage goes off faste when strafing. Even when strafelocked, this is a better way imo. But you shouldnt get swarmed in the first place! Multi as your main skill.... well, the debate on Multi vs Strafe have been going on for about 6 years now, but the truth is that both skills should be used. Some situations demand strafe, other demand Multishot.

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#22

Dec 21 2006 02:21pm

Thing is with that many pts in strafe and valk and merc up you will fire a lot of arrows when swarmed. When you get D/A/E triggered in your attack animation all of your next attacks will miss. Putting you in a position where you cannot move and you arent damaging or knockbacking or leeching. Strafe is only faster if you have 1-4 monsters in front you. When achieving the 9fps breakpoint i would go for a 9/2 strafer instead of a 9 fps Multi. But when you get to 7fps multi is by far the superior skill.

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Dec 22 2006 05:26am

Quote (LilRed2 @ Thu, 21 Dec 2006, 21:21)

The thing you describe, sounds alot like the same thing that happens when using Fend and having points in D/E/A at the same time. The animation goes on, but it doesnt hit. Its called 'dodgelock', but I havent experienced it when using strafe. Because the few times I have gotten swarmed, leeching life has never been a problem, if it had occured then I would have died alot more.

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#24

Dec 22 2006 01:58pm

It does happen tho. Its not fend that is bugged its the D/A/E skills that are.

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Dec 25 2006 11:17am

is this build more effective than a faith ama with a might+conc merc?

my ama with merc had 6k ga dmg (maxed ga) with an empty inventory (i mean no special charms, anni and torch were in it)
and not everything put in dex

one major advantage of rogue merc is definitely that she is defensive and doesnt die so often whereas the act2 mercs often die from iron maiden (though i gave him crap lowlvl weapon pride)

so is this build with Fana only as supporting aura better than 3 auras ?

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Dec 25 2006 09:25pm

Quote (Leohappy @ Fri, Nov 24 2006, 03:36pm)

just a few things i wanted to comment on:

- i won't really delve deep into your gear options because they're somewhat standard but just wanted to say that while ATMA'S is a great amy for the amplify dmg, it ONLY really works well with strafe; if you use multi most of the time this is NOT the amy to use, because CTC amp will only be triggered on two middle arrows and amp radius is very low

- war travs are a definite choice of boots here, this is without doubt

15-25 dmg is added to your base bow dmg (charms with max dmg) so in the end you will have an improvement of something like 300 dmg; i would strongly recomment not to use gores for PVM

- charms: why do you recommend max/ar/frw charms ??? this are clearly PVP charms which you don't need, fill your inventory with 20 lifers instead (or max/ar/life)

- you said "1-20 into penetrate" but i say "20 into penetrate"

unlike faith, WF doesn't add massive ar bonuses so you need all the ar you can get

- and lastly i would go with 1 pt into freezing arrow (for crowd control), as maxing both skills is a waste of skillpoints (FA drains tons of mana at higher levels and you will use it against physical immunes which are well... unleechable so gg potting)

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#27

Dec 26 2006 06:06am

Quote (mephistopheles @ Mon, 25 Dec 2006, 18:17)

is this build more effective than a faith ama with a might+conc merc?

In my opinion, yes. Your merc will not die as much as a A2 merc will, in CS you dont have to tp to town every second to revive your merc. This is what makes it more effective, plus you get higher damage at higher level than a Faith does.

Quote (mephistopheles @ Mon, 25 Dec 2006, 18:17)

my ama with merc had 6k ga dmg (maxed ga)

You will be looking at over 7k Guided with this build.

Quote (mephistopheles @ Mon, 25 Dec 2006, 18:17)

one major advantage of rogue merc is definitely that she is defensive and doesnt die so often whereas the act2 mercs often die from iron maiden (though i gave him crap lowlvl weapon pride)

Yes, that is one major advantage. Another one is that its higher damage at higher level.

Quote (mephistopheles @ Mon, 25 Dec 2006, 18:17)

so is this build with Fana only as supporting aura better than 3 auras ?

Imo, yes.

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#28

Jan 4 2007 12:39am

might/conc merc will work just as well, just build the runeword in a low damage item like a haliberd... np.