not bad at all but i wish theres in/out puts about what armors to use vs others chars

and screenshots with gear/stats/skills/etc. xD

This post was edited by LilNeko on Aug 21 2010 10:07am

Thanks Jess yeah I wanted to have screenshots too, but I cant find a new hero editor and the builds vs other chars etc might be a nice addition also.






This guide is for GM melee barbs, that have no use for those skills.

This post was edited by Biglouy on Aug 21 2010 10:14am

Every conc barb should max these skills:
Concentrate
Battle orders
Shout
Axe Mastery
Iron Skin
Any remaining skills, put into Bash.


no point(s) in Increased Speed( frw mastery)/natural resist = HUGE MISTAKE!

Why would you choose one build over the other?
What is the difference between the ar/defense/damage/life between each build?
Which build counters which build? You say the strategy is using the right build at the right time, list some examples.
What's the difference between 9 frame and 10 frame attacks?

because it's hard to counter vs other build. i don't even know what to use vs pallys or druids or barbs.

That on 9 frames you do 2.7 attacks per second and on 10 frames you do 2.5

This post was edited by Synonym on Aug 21 2010 10:24am

cool, but what do you give up life/damage/ar/defense wise to get to a 9 frame attack

Why would you choose one build over the other?

The key to Melee is using the right setup verse your opponent. Depending on what your opponent is using, you may need more AR, or more defense, or less AR; allowing you to have more damage, etc

What is the difference between the ar/defense/damage/life between each build?
I won't give exact numbers to reveal my characters stats.. but I can give some rough ideas of what to use when. I do plan on making some generic screenshots in the near future, since they seem to be at a high demand.

10frame fort-- Very high damage, High AR, Lower attack speed. this is best to use verse other slow attacking concers

9frame fort--- High Damage, lower AR, Higher Attack speed this is best to use against zealers using Levi or Fort, because their defense wont be too high and they hit frequent, so the fast attack speed will help. This would also work well against jabbers or furies

10frame Prudence -- Very high defense, High AR, decent damage This is good against non angelic barbs.

9frame Prudence-- Very high defense, high AR, decent damage This is good against non angelic zealers.

E uppd B hades-- Good defense, very high AR, decent damage This build puts you in the 9th frame, and works best against zealers with prude or shaft, because they will have higher defense and you would need to use angelics to crack it. This also works well against barbs with high defense (prude or other bhades builds)

Steel Cara-- This build puts you in the 9th frame, and works best against zealers using levi or fort, because your AR will be lower but again attack speed up.

Gvalor-- This is one of the most rounded builds and I use it in almost all situations, but the AR may be too low to crack some Prudence builds.


Which build counters which build? You say the strategy is using the right build at the right time, list some examples.

^^ explained above

What's the difference between 9 frame and 10 frame attacks?
9 frame attacks are faster, you do 2.7 attacks per second. 10 frame 2.5 per second. Briefly explained above, in order to attain the 9th frame, you have to sacrifice damage, AR, or Defense, but sometimes its very necessary to be able to attack faster.

what about fools build then?:P cuz on fools build you be at like 29-30k ar it's impossible to lower the ar, i think.

Yea im considering making one of these. Can someone on east show me Steel carapace on a barb ingame? Bet it looks sick:P
Would 2 ravens/highlords be the way to go with a fools weapon? What would be the best armor with a nice fools?