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Jul 31 2010 11:53am
Quote (Synonym @ Jul 31 2010 01:50pm)
Read the stats again instead of guessing.



Care to explain how LW does more damage than Grief?


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LW give's might aura + has 70% Crushing Blow


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LW give's might aura + has 70% Crushing Blow

/edit u quoted me wrong. i never said dracs have cb
noob_nova did


i never said dracs have CB
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Quote (halo273 @ Jul 31 2010 01:52pm)
wrong

grief>in pvm and pvp


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Jul 31 2010 11:56am
Quote (Noob_Nova @ Jul 31 2010 12:53pm)
i never said dracs have CB


lol Read post #14 at the bottom
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Jul 31 2010 11:58am
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lol Read post #14 at the bottom


yeah dude? and?

I just asked him if hes sure about that.

I don't have every single modification, on every item in the game memorized. Do you?
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Jul 31 2010 11:59am
Quote (Noob_Nova @ Jul 31 2010 12:58pm)
yeah dude? and?

I just asked him if hes sure about that.

I don't have every single modification, on every item in the game memorized. Do you?


Dont try that shit. or be a smartass. im saying u did in fact say tho u did think dracs had cb in post #22
fuckin idiot

This post was edited by maxx_factor on Jul 31 2010 11:59am
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Jul 31 2010 12:00pm
lw isnt bad, its just crazy expensive to make. It has nice mods but it comes at too steep of a price. If lw was cheap to make I dont think anyone would have a problem with it. And why do we need another lw/grief thread? Who really cares what someone else uses? I know I dont. I could careless if someone uses Weapon A over Weapon B, makes no difference to my gaming experience
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Jul 31 2010 12:01pm
Quote (maxx_factor @ Jul 31 2010 08:51pm)
LW give's might aura + has 70% Crushing Blow


The most perfect Last Wish PB with 15% Superior PB mod does 186-206 average damage.

Grief +340 does 34x-36x average damage.

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Dont try that shit. or be a smartass. im saying u did in fact say tho u did think dracs had cb in post #22
fuckin idiot


um...

in post 22 i said "i never said dracs have CB"

AND WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU? I'M AN IDIOT? NO, FUCK YOU YOU STUPID WORTHLESS FUCK. MY REASONS FOR LW > YOURS. GO FUCK YOUR SELF NOOB.
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Jul 31 2010 12:02pm
Quote (Noob_Nova @ Jul 31 2010 05:52pm)
1) I've had the treachery pre buff take up to 3 minutes
2) 5% ctc is not enough. The wand is hard to target, and the minions might own you if you don't have someone to hold them while you cast. 15% ctc is enough to jump in and just start smiting.
3) CB 95% is so all but 5% of your attacks do CB. It does not loss effect after 4-5, it is however diminishing. This is because CB works on monsters life percentage. Less life = less dmg
4) yes, and it takes about 5-10 seconds to kill them with some pretty shitty gear, at the point that you are talking about.


lies

1) standing in fire outside of town in act 5 a few seconds its done..
2) with lifetap wand and the fact that smite hit 95% of the time this is enough to proc this enough times
3)cb works well for intial hits but as ubers gets to lower hp actual dmg counts + with grief u can get masses of cb i.e goblin toes = 25%/ 35% from guillemes/ 15% from duress =75% cb so 3/4 hits land with cb not to add grief adds huge dmg also..

take a look at this guide grief vs lw vs black and a few others where calculated in this guide;

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=30214082&f=87

This post was edited by halo273 on Jul 31 2010 12:04pm
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