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Quote (CompanyOfThree @ Wed, Oct 7 2009, 11:08am)
Interesting... Anything else you would change for verse casters besides the weapon?


For the most part this character should be looked at gearwise just like any other shapeshifter. Its a melee character just like a druid in bear form.
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Quote (Master_Zappy @ Tue, 6 Oct 2009, 17:11)
runspeed, they come to you, but this isnt anything a few frw charms wont fix or a harmony bow if you want. This is an issue all shifters deal with.

Attack damage = appx 6K avg damage taking into account crit. Plenty enough. This char outtanks any other build possible. You will have decent defense, max block, max res+50% dr 55-60% dodge and avoiding all attacks including things like hammers and nado and more effective life then any other build.

This isnt the most dominating pvp build, but they hold their own fairly well. Dont forget massive life.!

Vs hammers, and casters where your res will be adequate you can throw an ebotd gpa for apprx 12-15K max damage at range 5 on a  9fpa , same speed as conc/zerk barbs on 1h , faster then them on 2h's (10fpa)


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Quote (Tails chao @ Tue, Oct 20 2009, 12:00pm)
No.    (This char outtanks any other build possible)


Indeed it does because of the passives. Nothing else will have much more (couple thousand more) life then a equally geared bear zon. However because the zon will dodge over half of all attacks while things like say a wolfbarb or bear druid (the technically highest gross life builds) have to just take that damage to their (life) red bulb they dont tank as much or long. The zon with 60% d/a/e effectively has double their life.


I see your scammer, and a locked one, so you can be that bright and math is probably way over your head, but I'll post in case someone actually thinks you might be credible.


example.

Wolfbarb , 12K life
Bearzon 8K life 60%dodge. (50% shown here for easy illustration)

Hammerdin , lets assume 3K pvp damage

Hammer Attack Number 1
Wolfbarb life = 9K life
Bearzon life = 5K

Hammerdin Attack Number 2
Wolfbarb Life = 6K
Bearzon life = Dodged , 5K life

Hammerdin Attack 3
Wolfbarb life = 3K
Bearzon = 2K

Hammerdin Attack Number 3
Wolfbarb = dead
Bearzon = Dodged , 2K life.


Now hammers are an extreme example, once you take into account your actively trying to avoid getting hit coupled with the fact almost every build does less damage then a hammerdin the zon really comes out ahead.



Better Example Until one character dies. This will use a well represented pvp build. At only 50% dodge we're quickly assume that every other attack misses on the zon. She will have higher a % then this.

Bone nec 6K spear , 1K pvp.

Bonespear Attack #1
Barb 11K life
Zon 7K life

Bonespear Attack #2
Barb 10K life
Zon , dodged 7K life

Bonespear Attack #3
barb 9K life
Zon 6K life

Bonespear Attack #4
Barb 8K life
Zon , dodged 6K life

Bonespear Attack #5
Barb 7K life
Zon 5K life

Bonespear Attack #6
Barb 6K life
Zon Dodged , 5K life

Bonespear Attack #7
Barb 5K life
Zon 4K life

Bonespear Attack #8
Barb life 4K
Zon dodged, 4K life

Bonespear Attack #9
Barb 3K life
Zon 3K life

Bonespear Attack #10
Barb 2K life
Zon Dodged, 3K life

Bonespear Attack #11
Barb 1K life
Zon 2K life

Bonespear Attack #12
Barb , Dies! Your Deeds will be rememberd.
Zon , Dodges, 2K life

Bonespear Attack #13
Barb , dead.
Zon 1K life

Bonespear Attack #14
Barb dead a couple spears ago
Zon , finally dies.

12K life Barb vs 8K life Bearzon.



Guide to the top. Vouch this excellent build!~.

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Oct 22 2009 12:41pm
build one @ singel player and tested her.fucking sucks. crap character ; /

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Oct 22 2009 12:49pm
Just wondering. Why do you need fhr when it doesn't work on D/A/E?
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Oct 22 2009 01:01pm
Quote (Podcast @ Thu, Oct 22 2009, 01:41pm)
build one @ singel player and tested her.fucking sucks. crap character ; /


Well, a bearzon isn't really for PvM if that's the kind of scenario you implemented?
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Jan 15 2010 07:26pm
I've played a bearzon this entire ladder. I have some good tips to put on here when I'm next online. You've got the jyst of it, but not the true strength inherent in this build...
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Quote (Chthonic @ Jan 15 2010 08:26pm)
I've played a bearzon this entire ladder. I have some good tips to put on here when I'm next online. You've got the jyst of it, but not the true strength inherent in this build...


Don't hog the secrets bro, post up :D
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Jan 15 2010 10:54pm
what the fuck is all i want to say about zon or sin bear chars. Waste of time to make a kill. If you are a tweeker then this is the char build for you.

Fyi zons are the worste class to use in pvp when you have spent skills into passives for dodge evade aviod.

When you get attacked you are constantly thrown into animation lock that prevents you from doing shit. Now ontop of that your in bearform and this will further fuck you with the constant reforming to human and bearfrom.

This post was edited by funkynoc1 on Jan 15 2010 10:57pm
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