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Sep 30 2009 07:14pm
Quote (Ancalagon @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 08:52pm)
this answer shows that you don't really know what you're talking about
gangel does not give you 50 stats on a paladin.. holy shield has +% blocking

but okay simple example:
lvl 90 char
lvl 20 hs(+35% chance to block)
sacred targe aka 60 baseblock

133dex with gangel
158dex  without gangel

-> 25 difference= 75 hp
so actually 113 with a pruby
if we use the skill, we're at 145 hp


Lets look at formula for max block:

DEX needed for max block = {(150 * clvl) / blocking} + 15, rounded up.

Blocking means ALL the increased chance of blocking mods. If you got 60 from a shield, 35 from holyshield, and 20 from Gagel thats 115 Blocking.

{(150 * 85) / 115} + 15 = 126 dex

Without GAngel its 95 Blocking.

{(150 * 85) / 95} + 15 = 150 dex

25 points, you're right, Lionheart offers more life. (In the form of +stats)

Quote (Ancalagon @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 08:52pm)
problem:
lionheart offers 96 stats and 30% prisma so actually 288 hp+prisma


30 anya+116-121 shield+treachery62=208-213

no resis from rings
no resis from ammy
no resis from belt
no resis from shoes

so we're missing 87 additional prisma for full resis with gangel



We get ALL our resistances from 1 item

105 (SHEILD) + 60 (TREACHERY) +30 (MARAS SCROLLS)= 195 rez - 100 rez = 95 Capped Resistances.

195 total resistances is capped, you don't need more than that! How am I missing 87 resists???

IMO capped resist and +1 skills is more important than an extra 150 life or whatever you get from Lionheart.

This post was edited by thana on Sep 30 2009 07:28pm
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Sep 30 2009 07:19pm
Quote (Worseley @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 09:09pm)
Well using Lionsheart is a entirely different build.  One is going towards damage reduction, the other is more of a typical smiter build.

Personally I'd throw in Dungos to help with the fhr, i'd forget throwing in the 20pts into max fire/cold so when you pickup exile later you'll still have those skills.  Also no point in taking poison past 90% really.

This is a cheap smiter build without all the high runewords but you also want to be able to convert him as new better gear comes along.  Wasting skill points isnt going to help you (unless there are skill/stat redistribution on 1.13)


Hopefully the new patch is coming out soon. So I don't see this a problem with the build, the new ladder reset is why I wrote it. ><

Dungos is an awesome belt don't get me wrong, you get 30% FHR on GFAce and only need 20% more to reach max BP. You can get this just as easily on charms as well.

The only way to get poison past 90 is to where Andy's, and of c that would be pointless.


The real problem I have with T-Gods is a FOH Lock... it only lasts a couple frames, but i haven't had any close calls yet, but I imagine there could be.

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Sep 30 2009 07:25pm
Quote (ChaosSin @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 09:10pm)




nice job for the guide

but... i still dont understand for the 20 conv, you allready have enough res to still have your 75-95 all res


A level 21 Conviction cancels Meph's conviction, which WOULD lowers your resistances by 125. That is the only reason why we use it.

This post was edited by thana on Sep 30 2009 07:29pm
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Sep 30 2009 07:34pm
venom grip gives 5crush and +5 pr max
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Sep 30 2009 07:36pm
Quote (Worseley @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 09:34pm)
Also no point in taking poison past 90% really


I agree with you-- capped PR is kinda pointless with LT...

This post was edited by thana on Sep 30 2009 07:37pm
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Sep 30 2009 08:08pm
Great guide my man.
Ima build this to the letter and get back to you.
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Sep 30 2009 08:15pm
Quote (archie101 @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 10:08pm)
Great guide my man.
Ima build this to the letter and get back to you.


I would suggest Stormlash or 2 soc Heavens Light all with shaels as your weap. Both require no ias from armor or helm, so sok with P rubies. Use cat's eye when you fight Meph and you will 7 frame. 6 frame auto with fanta. Make sure you seperate them!! GL man!
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Sep 30 2009 09:09pm
Quote (thana @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 07:31pm)
It seems I mixed up the order in which absorption takes place, I better ring would be like the one you mentioned. Thank you for the input.



dstar absorbs always, not just when you're hit, and res doesnt reduce dmg, it negates it a % of the time.
the 5% of the time you get hit, it abosrd 15% of that dmg...(15% of 1000 being 150 for the math kids)
anyone who's run a lot of hammer chaos knows it makes a difference.....


don't pretend you don't remember actually playing the game.


p.s. the nice part of this build, for all those who missed it....is that its cheap. Pretty much all the gear a new guy can pick up from richers who drop this junk
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Sep 30 2009 09:20pm
ROFL, wow you got some nerve saying i'm wrong. Check your facts... Elemental resist ISN'T Chance to block. It's flatout Negation.


ROFLMAO
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Sep 30 2009 09:24pm
Quote (Worseley @ Wed, Sep 30 2009, 11:20pm)
Check your facts... Elemental resist ISN'T Chance to block.  It's flatout Negation.


I have to agree with Worseley on this one. Take for instance souls. With my 95 resistanes, even without sorb, they dont hurt me that much. I dont all of sudden take a huge drop in life, like I was blocking the whole time and all of a sudden got hit with a massive attack.

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