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Sep 22 2009 08:48am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 02:43pm)
if you want to duel GM, use a NON eth upped zaka (hoz) socketed with Ber..

if you wanna BM, use a ETH GLITCHED ST Exile

as for the topic, ST > Vortex coz:

1. more block %
2. lesser reqs
3. more CONSISTENT damage (vortex is 5 to 87, minimum roll on the min damage)


Defense can be more useful for some duels and with the damage on top of griefs damage it's not that inconsistent really.
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Sep 22 2009 08:56am
Quote (hue_two @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 10:48am)
Defense can be more useful for some duels and with the damage on top of griefs damage it's not that inconsistent really.


the 400 defense matters? i don't think so.. smiters already have an extremely high defense (in the range of 30-40k when using exile, because of the defiance aura).. the defense bonus from ev exile is negligible.. eth st exile is better..

and regarding damage, yes though grief's damage outweighs it, when you calculate the damage bonus from holy shield applied to the shields, the difference in minimum damage between vortex and sacred targe are significant..
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Sep 22 2009 09:06am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 02:56pm)
the 400 defense matters? i don't think so.. smiters already have an extremely high defense (in the range of 30-40k when using exile, because of the defiance aura).. the defense bonus from ev exile is negligible.. eth st exile is better..

and regarding damage, yes though grief's damage outweighs it, when you calculate the damage bonus from holy shield applied to the shields, the difference in minimum damage between vortex and sacred targe are significant..


how is +400 base def negligible :S


edit : actually its more like +600 more base def

This post was edited by hue_two on Sep 22 2009 09:09am
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Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, 22 Sep 2009, 15:56)
the 400 defense matters?


Infact it is around 2400 def, not 400 :P

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Sep 22 2009 09:12am
Quote (Dorieus @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 11:09am)
Infact it is around 2400 def, not 400 :P


i was mentioning the BASE defense.. if you count holy shield in, it is more yes, but my point was that your defense is already overkill with exile (holy shield + defiance aura).. what's the point in boosting it even higher.. i'd rather prefer more consistent smite damage..
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Sep 22 2009 09:15am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 03:12pm)
i was mentioning the BASE defense.. if you count holy shield in, it is more yes, but my point was that your defense is already overkill with exile (holy shield + defiance aura).. what's the point in boosting it even higher.. i'd rather prefer more consistent smite damage..


its no way an overkill smite vs barb or zeal vs zeal

and its around +550 base def

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Quote (hue_two @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 11:15am)
its no way an overkill smite vs barb or zeal vs zeal


smite vs barb, it IS overkill.. i do perfectly fine with an st exile while facing a barb who is wearing angelics..

and the topic is about a shield for a SMITER, not a zealer.. if it were a zealer, it's a different story..
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Sep 22 2009 09:18am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 03:17pm)
smite vs barb, it IS overkill.. i do perfectly fine with an st exile while facing a barb who is wearing angelics..

and the topic is about a shield for a SMITER, not a zealer.. if it were a zealer, it's a different story..


yea you do fine im sure but vortex is still better vs barb

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yea you do fine im sure but vortex is still better


what the point in having a higher defense when a lower defense works just as good.. BUT the smite damage from ST is more consistent PLUS your blocking % is higher with ST.. why would you use a vortex in that case?
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Sep 22 2009 09:24am
Quote (ashwinthegrim @ Tue, Sep 22 2009, 03:19pm)
what the point in having a higher defense when a lower defense works just as good.. BUT the smite damage from ST is more consistent PLUS your blocking % is higher with ST.. why would you use a vortex in that case?



too bad i dont have a smiter to see the def change from using vortex but it greatly reduces a barbs "damage"
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