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Nov 23 2004 09:53am
QUOTE (Kodachi @ Nov 22 2004, 10:54 AM)
rofl he says ww sins suck and are cookie cutter.
Must not remember back to begining of 1.10, the only ww sins you saw wore 120/45 max nats armor and 2x chaos... most didn't even use venom.
WW sins are not cookie cutter, and if you call me/my sin cookie cutteryou are the biggest noob on the planet.

Duel my ww sin, aa me, scroll me idc, *Koda-

Dude... don't get too worked up over a game man... Remember Diablo 2 is just a game, no reason to get upset and proclaim someone the biggest noob on the planet. And BTW non ladder sucks. Play ladder where you don't have massively duped under level req hacked crafted items.

And no... I don't remember early 1.10 ww sins, Probably because When 09 went over, I went directly to ladder, because I was sick of all the morons on Nl.




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cookie cutters


This post was edited by Ironsolid06 on Nov 23 2004 09:54am
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Nov 23 2004 11:33am
lol..........
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QUOTE (Ironsolid06 @ Nov 23 2004, 03:53 PM)
Next time don't misquote me. I never said they were
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cookie cutters

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The purpose of this, is to stay away from the common piece of shit ww sin. IMO: WW sin is the worst got damn pvp class. Sorry, But I like originality in my characters

Right there

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this sin has a few probs imo... no block on switch, no tele (not even df), low light res (125 light res if using 20 res anni and 30 res maras + anya quests -- meaning 25 light res in hell, 55 fire res in hell)

when i had my sin with 102 fcr/max block on switch w/ enigma and 400 dmg wof/250 dmg mb/shadow master, i could at least have a chance against any class... you can lock enemies with mb/wof which actually does a bit of dmg; then you could shoot them a lot of times while keeping them locked

if it was a char you cant really lock (ww sin for example), i could tele away and shoot

he probably hasnt dueled many good ww sins if hes on ladder because on ladder, there is no 08 valk which is the center of the build of most good ww sins on nl

this sin would have very little chance against good sorcs (sorcs with max psn res, 75 block on whitstan, 105 fcr, good at tele)... they could own it like they do zons or even tank a couple arrows and pk him...

necro could use clay golem + decrep to beat it easily...

ele druid can beat it easily with summons + recast..

hammerdins could just tele on him i would imagine; he cannot tele away quickly -- if not they could charge and hammer to make it desynch without getting hit by arrows because they can vigor+charger faster than ga moves

trapper could beat it pretty easily because of the char's lack of light res and the fact that it wont be easy for him to get away from trap+mb lock
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Nov 26 2004 05:27am
very interesting i might have to give this a try
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Nov 26 2004 07:56am
QUOTE (makaveli7 @ Nov 24 2004, 06:39 AM)
this sin has a few probs imo... no block on switch, no tele (not even df), low light res (125 light res if using 20 res anni and 30 res maras + anya quests -- meaning 25 light res in hell, 55 fire res in hell)

when i had my sin with 102 fcr/max block on switch w/ enigma and 400 dmg wof/250 dmg mb/shadow master, i could at least have a chance against any class... you can lock enemies with mb/wof which actually does a bit of dmg; then you could shoot them a lot of times while keeping them locked

if it was a char you cant really lock (ww sin for example), i could tele away and shoot

he probably hasnt dueled many good ww sins if hes on ladder because on ladder, there is no 08 valk which is the center of the build of most good ww sins on nl

this sin would have very little chance against good sorcs (sorcs with max psn res, 75 block on whitstan, 105 fcr, good at tele)... they could own it like they do zons or even tank a couple arrows and pk him...

necro could use clay golem + decrep to beat it easily...

ele druid can beat it easily with summons + recast..

hammerdins could just tele on him i would imagine; he cannot tele away quickly -- if not they could charge and hammer to make it desynch without getting hit by arrows because they can vigor+charger faster than ga moves

trapper could beat it pretty easily because of the char's lack of light res and the fact that it wont be easy for him to get away from trap+mb lock

To comment on the Trapper.. I've been beaten by... one trapper.


Yes, I play ladder because I like unhacked/duped amulets. And ofcourse the 08 dupes. But otherwise, their are flaws in EVERY char build.


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Right there


I never said cookie cutter. Stop posting in my thread moron.

WW sins... Bah! Sorry I just don't like them. If I made one it would probably be good considering I can afford just about anythign on the game i want. Yea, I've probably dueled the worst of the worst in every case. I've been beaten by Two (2) Whirlwind sins... That goes for all of my characters.

Anyways, I have to go help my mom for a while.
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Dec 28 2004 07:06am
nice guide
bit flaws tough
But ww sins DO NOT SUCK
i have 1 and kill many chars
i have a fair chance vs everu char
ele druids en PnB necs are easy tough sorcs too
sometimes a bit problems with exile dudes but hey cant have it all

well thats about it

SOoP.

Ps. dont judge a ww sin if uve never made a good 1.

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Dec 28 2004 11:36am
Listen to what he has to say, he plays LADDER, so ofcourse, if he would go non ladder and get duped/bugged items, he would make a new guide.


But, like he said, he plays ladder and therefore bases his guide and strategy on the characters he encounters there. If he would fight against 08 valk'ed WW assa's he would change his gear/build yes.

Nice guide wink.gif
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Dec 29 2004 08:18am
Your should post some strats on here.
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Jan 7 2005 01:56pm
Ok quick couple of questions:

I suppose your are using widowmaker for the guided arrow and not magic arrow?

Does deadly strike work?

How does attack rating affect this build? More AR the better?

I have these questions because you can use a much better bow if physical dmg isnt important.
A Witchwild String would be much better if the answers to the above are "yes"
It gives the much needed resists, has 2 open sockets for even more poison dmg, or um, or Lo, or whatever you want to socket with,
it fires a level 20 magic arrow which gives you 181% increase in AR where widowmaker only gives a level 11 MA
And deadly strike is 1 per charlevel which is better than the 33 on widowmaker.


I'm not familiar at all on bow using characters...I did a search on the above, but I get like 4000 posts and none of them involving poison and deadly strike. Or whether guided arrow is that great. I have had a zon fire tons of guided arrows at my barb and never hit....if a high attack rating is better for magic arrows why not go with that instead?
I mean, is it really important to shoot and not have to aim?
I'd rather snipe other characters and use a little bit of skill.

Other than weapon choice, I like the build and will be searching for some gear to try it out!

What kind of poison damage you do anyway?

Later

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