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...so could someone sum up everything? I know that more mf = more uniqes, rares, sets but proportion between mf and effective mf dicrease when mf increase (or sth like that;P).
And the only monstaz which can drop EVERY item are Nithlathak, 5baal waves and Baal (cuz mlvl87+ and TC 87+) am i right? So to make a "perf mf/hr run" i have to kill Nitlathak,
do whole Baalrun, kill everything in Tower including Countess, find bug chest in Low Kurast, kill Council, kill Hefaisto in Hellforge and clear the MooMoo Farm? (Sometimes nm Andi for sojs)
Did i miss sth? I'm askin cuz i want 2 make on hc ld gosu 500 Mf Cold sorc for 8players games and I'm aiming at Templar, Coa, Griffon, Df and other gosu craps + runes over Ist to expand my collection;)
Btw. Is Cold soso a good choice? Iam afraid of immunes (single immunes i can kill with static filed + merc) but if ther's a lot of such guys i have to know that b4 i waste my time:P
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...so could someone sum up everything? I know that more mf = more uniqes, rares, sets but proportion between mf and effective mf dicrease when mf increase (or sth like that;P).
And the only monstaz which can drop EVERY item are Nithlathak, 5baal waves and Baal (cuz mlvl87+ and TC 87+) am i right? So to make a "perf mf/hr run" i have to kill Nitlathak,
do whole Baalrun, kill everything in Tower including Countess, find bug chest in Low Kurast, kill Council, kill Hefaisto in Hellforge and clear the MooMoo Farm? (Sometimes nm Andi for sojs)
Did i miss sth? I'm askin cuz i want 2 make on hc ld gosu 500 Mf Cold sorc for 8players games and I'm aiming at Templar, Coa, Griffon, Df and other gosu craps + runes over Ist to expand my collection;)
Btw. Is Cold soso a good choice? Iam afraid of immunes (single immunes i can kill with static filed + merc) but if ther's a lot of such guys i have to know that b4 i waste my time:P
Need answer o my friendship!:)

If we are talking uniques, then the random boss packs and Champion packs in level 85 areas can drop them as well. Set pieces from Cow King's Leathers must be found in the Secret Cow Level.
Every other set item can be dropped by either TC 87 Super Uniques or from the level 85 areas.

What is a "perf mf/hr run" ? You do not run for HRs, you consider yourself extremely lucky if you ever find one. MF has no impact on runes and the LK chests are only bugged in 8-player games,
if I remember correctly. In my opinion, a "perfect MF run" is one in which you pick suitable level 85 areas and high level Super Uniques. The Mausoleum and Ancient Tunnels would fit a cold sorc.

A Blizzard sorc could work, however I would not recommend running CS with her.

This post was edited by Faelwen on Oct 24 2008 03:41am
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What is a "perf mf/hr run" ? You do not run for HRs, you consider yourself extremely lucky if you ever find one. MF has no impact on runes and the LK chests are only bugged in 8-player games,


Um, not to nitpick, but there are threads over at diabloii.net that validate the bugginess of less than p8 games and HRs. The whole chest drop is messed up. No one in their right mind is going to make 1K LK runs on P1 just to see what the HRs are going to be.

Was there a section in there somewhere about how a monster can upgrade his TC?

Otherwise, nice as usual.
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Um, not to nitpick, but there are threads over at diabloii.net that validate the bugginess of less than p8 games and HRs.  The whole chest drop is messed up.  No one in their right mind is going to make 1K LK runs on P1 just to see what the HRs are going to be.

Was there a section in there somewhere about how a monster can upgrade his TC?

Otherwise, nice as usual.

Not sure what I was thinking then. Perhaps the ~ 65k special chest drop possibilities at /p8. What happens with those chests at /p1-7 ?

All I could find about TC upgrades were a few sections in Warrior of Light's "Item Generation Tutorial for Patch 1.11" ... "4.1. TreasureClassEx.txt" and "6. TC selection and number of dropped items"
(the Thrugg quote).

More or less the same as you have included in your Alvl85 guide.

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"In a sense, 'mlvl >= TC' defines what monsters drop"
Just when the TC-group permits a TC-Upgrade wink.gif

TC-upgrading is quite simple. TCs are subdivided in groups. If mlvl is higher than the linked TC-Level (by monstats.txt) the next TCs in the TC-group are compared with the mlvl. If the next higher TC in the group has a lower or same Level compared to the mlvl, there will be an upgrade. Remember that this is just able in the same TC-group. This is the reason why de Seis just drops TC78 and not 87. The next higher TC in his group would need - dont remember exactly - mlvl 90+, so he cannot upgrade.
Downgrades are not possible!
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