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Apr 21 2008 01:21pm
Quote (Dumpling @ Mon, Apr 21 2008, 11:19am)
by counting that second element, you'd be able to see how many total "actions" there were, so you would be able to see whether it was a lower number of actions or just a lower frequency of mb.

you can also take a bit of the randomness out of it by teleporting into a corner with a stationary target some distance away, so your distance and relative position don't change. but then you'll have to do a few different tests with varying distances though.


yeh, that's an option too. it seems to "change it up" less when you're always in the same spot though.

like i said though, feel free to do your own tests and see how they match up, i'd be glad to have someone else check my work wink.gif i think my tests simulate reality pretty well though.
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Apr 21 2008 01:23pm
Quote (Dumpling @ Mon, Apr 21 2008, 11:19am)
by counting that second element, you'd be able to see how many total "actions" there were, so you would be able to see whether it was a lower number of actions or just a lower frequency of mb.

you can also take a bit of the randomness out of it by teleporting into a corner with a stationary target some distance away, so your distance and relative position don't change. but then you'll have to do a few different tests with varying distances though.

EDIT: if you want to look further into it, you might want to compare lvl 20 mb and lvl 20 traps to lvl 20 mb and lvl 19 traps, to see if there is some non-linearity in the way blizzard programed the AI.


well it never used LS, DS, or CBS even once in all 20 minutes. it loves sw. i guess i could test that too but i'm less interested in those things.
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if you want to look further into it, you might want to compare lvl 20 mb and lvl 20 traps to lvl 20 mb and lvl 19 traps, to see if there is some non-linearity in the way blizzard programed the AI.

on another note, the AI probably has something against casting traps when you're teleporting around, since traps disappear quite readily when you teleport out of range. it might just be preventing wasted actions, so it sticks to projectiles. i know i've seen shadow masters cast traps, so its not like they're totally neglecting them.
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Apr 21 2008 01:25pm
Quote (Dumpling @ Mon, Apr 21 2008, 11:24am)
if you want to look further into it, you might want to compare lvl 20 mb and lvl 20 traps to lvl 20 mb and lvl 19 traps, to see if there is some non-linearity in the way blizzard programed the AI.

on another note, the AI probably has something against casting traps when you're teleporting around, since traps disappear quite readily when you teleport out of range. it might just be preventing wasted actions, so it sticks to projectiles. i know i've seen shadow masters cast traps, so its not like they're totally neglecting them.


yeh, i've noticed that too. could be the teleport, or it could be the non-moving target, not sure.
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Apr 21 2008 02:33pm
done another test: 20 mindblast 20 shadow master.

result was: 51 mindblasts in 10 minutes.

i can test it with 2 points in master, but thus far the idea that more sm = more mb looks busted.
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Apr 21 2008 02:46pm
try 16 mb since that's what i've heard to be the "magic number"
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try 16 mb since that's what i've heard to be the "magic number"


yeah this i definitly a good reason, you skullfucked clown.



my tvt trapper uses max MB as well now and im very satisfied. compared to max traps you lose (depending on your final clvl) about 800-500 ls dmg.
however the stun dura and the damage of mb also increases which pretty much makes it up imho. and stun dura is very important in tvts.
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Apr 21 2008 03:01pm
He was making a joke about some people who think 16 is some kind of godly number for ES Sorcs.
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Quote (alia @ Mon, 21 Apr 2008, 22:01)
He was making a joke about some people who think 16 is some kind of godly number for ES Sorcs.



oh. fuck HAHHAHAEHAEH then ill aim my flame towards those es sorcs



hi rodney
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Apr 21 2008 03:03pm
wowwww....ok, i take back what i said earlier...just tried 2 sm 20 mb, and i got 153 mindblasts in 10 minutes ohmy.gif

we may be on to something here.
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