Even with 86 FHR when Dodge/Avoid/Evade trigers you are Unable to fight back/retreat! If it trigers several times (as it often does) - consider yourself dead when attacked by high damage dealer!
:/

Then how do I manage to do it every game?

Haha, just giving you are hard time. But seriously, they are beatable. And you could have just as easily made that comment about a Glass Cannons or any Bowzon really. However, the main diffrence here is really the overall focus of the build and that is the ability to take dmg, stay alive and shoot a lot of arrows. Refer to the Theory Section for More detail on this.

A max block druid is beatable, why? Max block druids use SS so they have low FHR and FCR. They make up for this by using FHR gcs which lowers their life and by using FCR rings, ammys and circlets lowering their dmg. He will usually have about 6k dmg. Take the pvp reduction and do 30% dr vs his Tornado. Thats barely 700dmg per hit when you have 3.8k+ life.

The only reason most necros win is because they are BM and use skills like decrip and bone prison, any character not using enigma in this situation will have torubles. I wont get to in depth as this is covered in the “Dueling Strategy” section.

Why cant I beat a trapper? They are one of the easiest to duel. This build provides 80% lighting resistance that is stack, and 60% fhr to take care of the mind blast. Add in the 70% chance to avoid traps and you shouldn’t never have problems here.




If you are in a Dodge animation you are not taking any damage. Its when you come out of the dodge that you have a chance to be hit, and if you are hit then thats when you need lots of Faster Hit Recover. The FHR will prevent you from taking another hit or from getting back into a series of dodges.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Feb 29 2008 10:43am

Any _GOOD_ Druid with 99/99 SS build will rape you. If the Druid is not using 99/99 or higher w/ max block then he is a retard.

My Ele Druid has 99 fcr/99 fhr, 6.6k damage, 6.6k life, max DR. That is just a normal build. The builds on East must be totally retarded if they use something different vs. Amazon. (Unless dungo/circlet)

Even in GM duels a max block Necro should win ever time. Stomp you, use walls (not prison) to block your path, and you will die. Even with 8-2x DR the Necro will win.

The Trapper will just stomp you, and lay traps + constant mb. If the trapper has 40+ DR you won't win. If she has max block you're fucked, and if she uses c/c you have a better chance, but still not much. Even with 80 light res. ;\~


I only talk about max block characters, because imo anything without max block is not worth playing.


Edit: just like Tass said. If you are using a CTA on switch you will never beat a Barb.

This post was edited by ObiWan-Kenobi on Feb 29 2008 10:51am

yes ive read your guide, and as ama player, i must say i disagree a lot with your build

used to play with
120/45 30frw
forti
bugbelt
faith gmb
cats eye
dual raven
wt/dupe trires boots
2 psv 20 ias kb gloves
titan + storm 40/req

with such stuff, i reach :
2.3k life (without bo)
5.5k ga
140 frw (with titan, 110 in bow slot)
and kb (its seriously missing in your build)

same as titan is rly missing, actually titan gives you a serious advantage against lots of char : especially barbs and ele druid.
no idea of east player skills
but if a barb lose to a non block bow ama, its seriously time to think of quitting d2...

This post was edited by 7455 on Feb 29 2008 10:54am

Yes!

Dodge/Avoid/Evade always need 8 frame to Recover.

Absolutely , but by this moment your oponent continues attacking (or has prepared various attacks to ensure hit - example: Blizzard , Ice Blast , Frost Nova?) and usually hits you and make you die!

I doubt if FHR can prevents Dodge/Avoid/Evade from trigering!

ehm sry when i ask but i think 9k ar is to low for multi^^



but rest looks pretty nice maybe u dont got enough ar on your max/ar/life scs

Well you are entitled to your opinion and it seems that you fancy yourself so sort of Druid expert and I’m happy for you. But just because you like druids and you kill a lot of Bowzons (the majority of which are probably Glass Cannon builds) does not mean you can easily kill this build. Max block does not automatically = a win against a Bowzon. I beat max block Druids all the time and if you need proof PM me sometime and we can duel and see who gets "stomped" as you like to say.
As for your comments on the necro and trap assassin you are simply repeating yourself and going on past experiences of how a Glass Cannon zon would fair in these duels. I believe my comments in the Strategy Section accurately explain the steps to a successful duel vs these two character classes. Maybe if you took the time to actually read the guide you would have known this. Plus don’t forget that max block is not that useful on a trapper because they run a lot which reduces your chance to block.



1) You just described in full the build and gear for a Glass Cannon zon. Apparently you missed that part where I explained this is a different guide. There are in fact other ways to build a Bowzon. Just because its not your way doesn’t mean its wrong.
2) Why bother telling me I forgot titans and SS when this is VITALITY BUILD, why would you give up cta? Do everyone a favor and read through the guide again, maybe a little slower this time, especially the Mechanics section and you will understand why I don’t use Titans and SS. Remember this is ZvA meaning you wont be dueling a character than has an attack that can be blocked 100% of the time like in ZvZ dueling. Honestly what good is a shield vs a fire bal? Hammer? Trap? Bone spear? Smite? I think you get the point im trying to make....as for having DR you don’t need to switch because you have your DR WITH YOUR BOW OUT, thats the beauty of it!!!
3)Knock Back is not missing from the build. Go look at the glove section again. I recommend Rare/crafted gloves....aka knockback gloves, also cleglaws which has kb as well.
4) Why would you use Titans and Storm Shield vs a ele druid? His summons will take all the damage if you don’t multi him first, even if you do and switch then you have to beat his cyclone armor with a lighting based attack. Might as well keep your bow out and beat him with better fast physical dmg guided arrows. Spirit has pathetic block btw and allows for easy hits on druids and all characters that use it.
5) Honestly think you’re going to take a 8k life barb down with those little javs?


This is true, FHR doesnt not effect dodge frame rate.


No it can't prevent it from triggering . But it can allow you to recover and move or return fire before you are hit again. That is why it is so important to have. Without it you will just get stuck dodging and taking hits, not fun!


The only thing you should be using mutli for is to clear summons or possibly against other bowzons. All of which have low defense. And if you do need to attack someone with high defense you have guided arrow! Ta Dah

This post was edited by Spartikis on Feb 29 2008 01:12pm

Nice guide (I don't know much about zons so I have no critiques)

What realm is your zon on?

She is on US East SCNL. But she is easily built on any realm and does not rely on any sort of realm specific items like bugged belts or anything like that except for the grim spurs which can easily be replaced with sandstorm treks and i highly recommend them since i have used in the past.

This post was edited by Spartikis on Feb 29 2008 01:02pm

Really nice and well written guide (one of the few here)

If I ever make a bowa I make it like this one.

This guide should be stickied.