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Quote (Lazybumi @ Feb 1 2024 09:15am)
Theres a reason why no one uses this build lol dont trust youtubers with their OMG THIS BUILD IS INSANE crap :thumbsup:


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its trash
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Quote (WiseWolf @ Feb 1 2024 10:37pm)
irk

its trash


This is so inacurrate, its definitely not trash. Im in early testings but I sweep baal (p1) without any problem. I would say Mangs definitely are on pair dmg wise with infinity or even better depending on what ur mission is. I feel it does a solo baalrun faster then self weild infinity. I will post more about this when Ive played more and I will also test on 8players. Mana reg is not an issue at p1, never have to use any potions cause of the fast regen. The downside as I see it is ofc that u miss the insight + cure merc and that is a rough trade even if u might do a bit more dmg overall.
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Quote (icnirac @ Feb 2 2024 12:23pm)
This is so inacurrate, its definitely not trash. Im in early testings but I sweep baal (p1) without any problem. I would say Mangs definitely are on pair dmg wise with infinity or even better depending on what ur mission is. I feel it does a solo baalrun faster then self weild infinity. I will post more about this when Ive played more and I will also test on 8players. Mana reg is not an issue at p1, never have to use any potions cause of the fast regen. The downside as I see it is ofc that u miss the insight + cure merc and that is a rough trade even if u might do a bit more dmg overall.


For p1 the Eschuta + CoH + JmoD set up would perform even better imho.
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Quote (Ashirgo @ Feb 2 2024 12:29pm)
For p1 the Eschuta + CoH + JmoD set up would perform even better imho.


Dont think so tbh but dont have any dmg charts of it so cant say for sure and unfortunately I cant test it, got a perfect lightning eschuta but no jmod. . Eschuta give +3 skills and -5 res with facet. Jmod gives -20 res. Mangs give +5 all skills and -20 res with facet. So u lose -5 res but gain +2 skills. The extra dmg given from facets + eschutas unfortunately does not work that well with light sorc since u got lightning mastery.

This post was edited by icnirac on Feb 2 2024 05:57am
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I just got 1 or 2 shot killed by a group of "Misshapen" demons (one was unique, no auras, maybe was manaburn ?) all I know is those lightning balls made me hurt and die... any ideas on this ? kind of frustrating with 2500life ansd 95%ES :-S
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I just got 1 or 2 shot killed by a group of "Misshapen" demons (one was unique, no auras, maybe was manaburn ?) all I know is those lightning balls made me hurt and die... any ideas on this ? kind of frustrating with 2500life ansd 95%ES :-S


I think they are bugged in this patch. And yes, they usually spawn with mana burn. You need to practice dodging their projectiles.
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Quote (raudic @ Feb 2 2024 12:42pm)
I just got 1 or 2 shot killed by a group of "Misshapen" demons (one was unique, no auras, maybe was manaburn ?) all I know is those lightning balls made me hurt and die... any ideas on this ? kind of frustrating with 2500life ansd 95%ES :-S


U have maxed out telekenesis right? Thats a must for an effective ES build. Im sure u know already but since u die more then u should as I understood it from you.

Another question. How do u have 2,5k life? How much mana do u have? I invest in str until I can wear all eq then all into energy but I got so many life skiller that gives me life. I know some people go like 50 vitality so blood mana and poison doesn't hur that much. That shouldnt effect the misshapen tho, if he had mana burn that could been the case else I dont think it should be able to go that fast. Reason I ask is that this never happens to me, I feel unkillable for the most part even when I play sloppy, some stuff like baals mana burn + blood mana combo is annoying then I need to use potions else it will take forever.

Edit: Saw Ashirgos post, mb they are bugged and thats why u died?

This post was edited by icnirac on Feb 2 2024 05:55am
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Quote (Ashirgo @ Feb 2 2024 12:44pm)
I think they are bugged in this patch. And yes, they usually spawn with mana burn. You need to practice dodging their projectiles.


very good to know, thank you , it wasn't the first time with Misshapen, now I know...
Any others to look out for except this one and souls ?


Quote (icnirac @ Feb 2 2024 12:51pm)
U have maxed out telekenesis right? Thats a must for an effective ES build. Im sure u know already but since u die more then u should as I understood it from you.

Another question. How do u have 2,5k life? How much mana do u have? I invest in str until I can wear all eq then all into energy but I got so many life skiller that gives me life. I know some people go like 50 vitality so blood mana and poison doesn't hur that much. That shouldnt effect the misshapen tho, if he had mana burn that could been the case else I dont think it should be able to go that fast. Reason I ask is that this never happens to me, I feel unkillable for the most part even when I play sloppy, some stuff like baals mana burn + blood mana combo is annoying then I need to use potions else it will take forever.

Edit: Saw Ashirgos post, mb they are bugged and thats why u died?


sorry I meant 2500 mana, life I barely have 500 (no points in vita, call to arms 4bo on +3 energy shield staff). Yes I have maxed telekinesis. (have no vita skillers or anything; if you have 800 life maybe that's enough to not feel the poison decrease too much until cleansing does its job.
Oh yes and I only play players8 if I can find the right games.

Also Right now I really feel I am sensibly dropping less uniques than with my frenzy barb despite the fact that he is a slower farmer. I really enjoy identifying uniques and hoping for high rolls so I am considering your nbr 2 build with enigma , I am just worried about removing the 2 sojs for FC rings because it will drop my mana to about 1800 and this feels a bit too low ? what do you end up with on mana with that build ?
Also I would only be getting a +1 sorc 20fc amu because any +2 20fc even with crap stats seems to be costing at the very minimum 250fg so it will have to wait for me to sell some stuff first.

This post was edited by raudic on Feb 2 2024 06:17am
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Quote (raudic @ Feb 2 2024 01:17pm)
very good to know, thank you , it wasn't the first time with Misshapen, now I know...
Any others to look out for except this one and souls ?




sorry I meant 2500 mana, life I barely have 500 (no points in vita, call to arms 4bo on +3 energy shield staff). Yes I have maxed telekinesis. (have no vita skillers or anything; if you have 800 life maybe that's enough to not feel the poison decrease too much until cleansing does its job.
Oh yes and I only play players8 if I can find the right games.

Also Right now I really feel I am sensibly dropping less uniques than with my frenzy barb despite the fact that he is a slower farmer. I really enjoy identifying uniques and hoping for high rolls so I am considering your nbr 2 build with enigma , I am just worried about removing the 2 sojs for FC rings because it will drop my mana to about 1800 and this feels a bit too low ? what do you end up with on mana with that build ?
Also I would only be getting a +1 sorc 20fc amu because any +2 20fc even with crap stats seems to be costing at the very minimum 250fg so it will have to wait for me to sell some stuff first.


That made more sense. I think I dont feel the poison as u cause I got a larger life pool plus enigma helps with life per kill.

If u go for the #2 build focus mana, str and mf on ur rings and amu, that will make up a bit for the mana loss from SoJs.

I got these atm
Ring 1 = 10 fcr, 16 str, 14 life, 84 mana, 7 mf. Ring 2 = 10 fcr, 10 ar, 4 energy, 84 mana, 13 mf. Amu 2/20, 27 mana, 8% reg mana, 7 mf

Ring 1 is pretty decent but the rest are kinda average but as u say, hard to get a 2/20 amu. Got 6 7/17 sc could stretch it to 7 if I want to but i like to have a key in a slot so I go with 6.

I got 579 life and 1529 mana without bo. With bo 878 life and 2601 mana.

And I totaly get u, its a huge difference playing on this sorc with almost 300mf compared to my 209%mf sorc in terms of finding stuff. And that makes the game more fun for me anyway.

This post was edited by icnirac on Feb 2 2024 08:44am
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Quote (icnirac @ Feb 2 2024 03:25pm)
That made more sense. I think I dont feel the poison as u cause I got a larger life pool plus enigma helps with life per kill.

If u go for the #2 build focus mana, str and mf on ur rings and amu, that will make up a bit for the mana loss from SoJs.

I got these atm
Ring 1 = 10 fcr, 16 str, 14 life, 84 mana, 7 mf. Ring 2 = 10 fcr, 10 ar, 4 energy, 84 mana, 13 mf. Amu 2/20, 27 mana, 8% reg mana, 7 mf

Ring 1 is pretty decent but the rest are kinda average but as u say, hard to get a 2/20 amu. Got 6 7/17 sc could stretch it to 7 if I want to but i like to have a key in a slot so I go with 6.

I got 579 life and 1529 mana without bo. With bo 878 life and 2601 mana.

And I totaly get u, its a huge difference playing on this sorc with almost 300mf compared to my 209%mf sorc in terms of finding stuff. And that makes the game more fun for me anyway.


thanks, I will definitely aim for such a similar build with Enigma.
Until I get richer, I think I will give it a try with +1/20 amu and 2 fc ring even without mana until I find those. I found a cool one : fc 18 mana 25lr 6%ll and 19mf , as you can see it would probably fit better a different character than a sorc nova so maybe i can sell it and get 2 other ones more suited for me.. but I am trying to keep it, I really like it.
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