I've never found it to be all that difficult to avoid being hit while waiting for the best time to strike at sorceresses. If I simply ran around like a chicken with my head cut off, then yes: I would probably never kill a 70/15 stacker sorc w/ 80%+ ES, however I don't rely on only my holy fire aura and conviction to kill them. I wait for the opportunity to charge lock. As the sorceress my be able to tank my holy fire alone, they will not be able to tank my holy fire and my charge cutting into them at the same time. Conviction helps as well since there is also heavy fire damage in my charge attack, if a sorceress stacks charms the way Bryce's guide explains they will not have much space, if any, to stack massive amounts of resists. When conviction hits them their resists will be dropped to very low numbers, if not negatives. Even with the chance that not every charge will not hit and their ability to tank a little, I believe my build has enough health points and resists to counter their assaults.

Took me about 3 hours to remember everything and write it into the guide. The testing was quite extensive and took a large amount of time. All of that was done between last ladder season and NL since then, probably a good two or three months of dueling both random duelists and character types I specifically wanted to test against. The outcome was my legit auradin. If you noticed, I do not mention any items that are hacked or duped whatsoever. I have, however, been out of the NL hacked item loop for a while and I do not know if there are any items that would have been better from that list of nonsense, but I believe the items in this guide work perfectly with each other and all have their specific purposes. Even all the way down to the often overlooked bonus from sandstorm trek of -poison duration.

This post was edited by ItalianStallion on Dec 5 2005 11:49am

u forgot about block though so that makes it even harder to hit
and i have found that even foh palys with 8k foh dont do any dam vs me so i really am sure a fire arura that does like 500 pvp dam will do any thing vs es or the fact that is i have never lost to a charger/smiter so i dont think charge will help eather,,ppl are getting smarter now and using block again,,and with es u really dont have to stack any resis
its a good build but i honstly dont think u really have dueled any good ppl with that cause i dont think they have a chance vs any 1 that is good
dont get me wroung they look like fun to play but they look more like glass canons to me

This post was edited by genuine on Dec 5 2005 12:05pm

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "glass cannons," and maybe I have not dueled your specific build. As for block, I've alread factored that into my thinking as I have dueled sorceresses with max block before. I will try to find a time that my internet speed is up to par to handle a duel and arrange one with you if you'd like. If we do that, however, please allow me to test vs you and not just have one duel and then get all cocky. I understand the notions you have for backing your ES build, but I'd like to see what your build has against mine considering I've not yet come across a sorceress that I could not kill at a high ratio during a set of duels. My final examinations are next week and many people use my internet supply in my house, causing the internet to run too slow to really play on. I will however look toward next week, most likely thursday, to be a day that we can work this out. I welcome you and anyone else who feels they have a sorceress of this particular build to come and test with me.
Thank you for reading through my guide and offering constructive criticism. I look foreward to testing with you.

If anyone else who has a character (of a different build) they'd like to test against my auradin, please contact me here or by PM and we'll arrange something probably next thursday as well.

This post was edited by ItalianStallion on Dec 5 2005 02:54pm

yea i got no problem with that pm me when ever u get the time and what to try this out
and what i mean by glass cannon is not really built to take punishment if he gets hit 1 good time he dies

dam this server is laggy as hell today srry about douuple post

This post was edited by genuine on Dec 5 2005 05:38pm

The build can take damage, that's the purpose of mass HP, stacked resists, 4-frame fhr, and a little damage reduction from verdungo's... along with the presence of a shield for blocking with holy shield.

Anyone else have any constructive comments?

i didnt read all 3 pages so i just figured i would comment on what i did read
im sorry if some of this was already covered
but by the way i like the guids layout and thank you for the time you spent on it
i assume this is a ladder guide and not nl
if on nl i would use soul spurs and an armageddon slippers ammy
also as far as the fhr is concerned
you can charge out of ANYTHING and since thats your main attack other then the auras you dont need any fhr at all
so blood fists can be taken out and replaced with dracs for more str pts added
i would also suggest possibly using a greif for charge
and probably a shako as your helm not a kiras
you will make up for alot of the res with the slippers ammy and the soul spurs and you can always um the shako
if you wanna try that out and let us all know how it compares that would be great
i would do so myself but i dont have an of the necesary gear
anyway just tryin to help out
dont take this offensivly its not an attack on your guide
later man

You can still be hit inbetween charges, hence the use for FHR. Your gear suggestions seem to counter physical assaults more than elemental ones. If you could post the stats on soul spurs and armageddon slippers I'd appreciate it. Grief is a good idea if I'm purely going to charge someone to death, i.e. a sorceress. However, the hand of justice does a very good job of that already. Kira's is better versus casters at least because of resists and cannot be frozen, leaving rings open (if you were so inclined) to be replaced w/ dwarf or wisp. When you post the stats of those two items I'll check into it more. Thanks.

very nice guide, got me thinking of making one now.

Also, not sure what realm you have him on but if you have him on USEast Ladder, id love to have some friendly duels against him with my orber. Just curious as to how he stands up to it. Ive dueled a few auradins and found them not much of a challenge (maybe they built them wrong?, maybe they played them wrong?). Anyways, I'm not tryin to call you out or anything or take a shot at the build (i think its a great guide/build), just want to see a good one in action with my own eyes before i go try and build one.