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Apr 21 2023 07:23pm
Quote (StevethePeeve @ Apr 21 2023 08:16pm)
Great build!


I know who has the same :)
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Apr 25 2023 04:24am
Quote (Dolphy @ Apr 17 2023 07:53pm)
you have exactly 0 -enemy fire res in all build variations, meaning the only thing you'll even tickle is lvl 75 ik barbs in pubs. provided they haven't put a point in natural resistance, that is.

trash build ngl


Is this some kind of pvm joke we are not used to? I literally just popped in to check out sng in 4 months and already losing braincells thanks for the laugh I guess.

This post was edited by addone on Apr 25 2023 04:24am
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Apr 25 2023 11:51am
Quote (emptyfolder @ Apr 18 2023 07:37am)
Thanks!

Enigma is just way too good of an item, 2 all skill for you BO, physical damage reduction, faster run walk, max life. . You don’t need more fcr unless you want to run 200fcr BP, at which point you use Viper. Ormus is not a good item, fits only for blizz sorc. Also we won’t have the strength to wear it because it’s a Dusk Shroud


Why is Ormus viable on Blizz sorc more then other types?

I'm curious as i'm currently running a blizz sorc with ormus :P
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Apr 25 2023 12:16pm
Quote (MouetteGrise @ 25 Apr 2023 12:51)
Why is Ormus viable on Blizz sorc more then other types?

I'm curious as i'm currently running a blizz sorc with ormus :P


because +% damage works with mastery, not on top of

so if you have fire mastery with +450% fire damage, ormus takes that to +465% fire damage, which is a very little change

but cold damage doesnt work that way, so +15% cold damage is a much larger proportional increase than it is on lite/fire sorcs

all that being said... ormus is still bad and you should probably be using viper or enigma
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Apr 25 2023 12:24pm
At least vs melee chars both a higher, max DR setup as well as a Max Block setup w/ shield will net you better results.
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Apr 25 2023 01:34pm
Hello mate, gonna try one of your set up as my first fire sorc, what would you recommand between Crude Life or Max Pain set up as a friendly starter ?

Any pros/cons ?
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Apr 25 2023 04:10pm
Quote (MouetteGrise @ Apr 25 2023 12:51pm)
Why is Ormus viable on Blizz sorc more then other types?

I'm curious as i'm currently running a blizz sorc with ormus :P


jsut because how Cold Mastery works and the synergy with Facets. You add damage, while you remove enemy resistance. Fire and Light mastery just add to the damage.

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At least vs melee chars both a higher, max DR setup as well as a Max Block setup w/ shield will net you better results.


Well, this is debatable. We should put up my sorc and a max block sorc with Moser's next to each other. You would be more survivable - yes, but how much damage you would do ? Literally half the damage. Sorcs are already weak against Melee classes, at least with the DR, yo ucan paly ele druids with one hand.

Quote (Lunatic92140 @ Apr 25 2023 02:34pm)
Hello mate, gonna try one of your set up as my first fire sorc, what would you recommand between Crude Lifeor Max Pain set up as a friendly starter ?

Any pros/cons ?


Max Pain. It is cheaper and faster to build. You dont need perfect items either :thumbsup:
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Apr 27 2023 07:45am
Quote (emptyfolder @ 18 Apr 2023 14:37)
Thanks!

Enigma is just way too good of an item, 2 all skill for you BO, physical damage reduction, faster run walk, max life. . You don’t need more fcr unless you want to run 200fcr BP, at which point you use Viper. Ormus is not a good item, fits only for blizz sorc. Also we won’t have the strength to wear it because it’s a Dusk Shroud


Why not go for CoH for an all round armor then? You're not going to be using the str from enigma anyway which is pretty big imo and the usefulness of frw is questionable. It basically boils down to stacked res vs 5% more life. I never thought CoH could ever beat enigma on a sorc but this might just be the case. You can always get an fcr ring with str to make it wearable.

This post was edited by rawwwrr on Apr 27 2023 07:48am
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Apr 27 2023 01:27pm
Quote (rawwwrr @ Apr 27 2023 08:45am)
Why not go for CoH for an all round armor then? You're not going to be using the str from enigma anyway which is pretty big imo and the usefulness of frw is questionable. It basically boils down to stacked res vs 5% more life. I never thought CoH could ever beat enigma on a sorc but this might just be the case. You can always get an fcr ring with str to make it wearable.


To be honest I’ve never used CoH all the years I played. It’s just a bad item. You don’t need all the resistance, but when you get in between 5 lightning sentries you want to walk not to tele, and the difference walking with enigma and without is very noticeable.
Also you have 50 base str. You need 20str to wear a 4 socket armor. You will lose 1 all skill which is also 1BO and 5% max life.

I feel you, I really want to make coh viable, but whichever side you look it from it’s still worse than enigma
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Apr 29 2023 08:26pm
Quote (Dolphy @ Apr 17 2023 03:53am)
you have exactly 0 -enemy fire res in all build variations, meaning the only thing you'll even tickle is lvl 75 ik barbs in pubs. provided they haven't put a point in natural resistance, that is.

trash build ngl


Lolwut

I can negate all the - res you stacked with small charms
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