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Oct 16 2013 04:56pm
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Venom caps the poisoning duration at 0.4 seconds, thus preventing long term poisoning. Consequently, all other items will only inflict poison damage for 0.4 seconds. Example: Though 700 damage over 10 seconds might seem impressive only 28 damage will be inflicted due to the 0.4 seconds cap.


http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/assassin-shadow.shtml

Kind of basic, mate...sorry! :P
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All elemental effects do is cancel out the animation of Deadly Strike, which is what spawned that myth. It doesn't do anything to the damage boost itself.


That's what I was trying to point out the whole time.
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Oct 16 2013 06:02pm
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But I didn't proc venom... I did short whirls.
Also, did you even consider what you're saying?
How would venom reducing the damage on a poison charm cut the damage of WITHOUT the poison charm in half?

Also, I did a second test, multiple times.
I did a ft5 with a barb who had about the same gear as me

I used 33x 3/20/20s, and I won.
Then I used 32x and a 451, and I lost
What would cause that...?

This post was edited by Tysnatch on Oct 16 2013 06:08pm
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Oct 16 2013 06:15pm
what would cause this is u make whirlwind from switzland to afgaistan while ur opponent make whirlwind from denmark to germeny

np for info donate if want :)
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Oct 16 2013 06:26pm
Quote (Tysnatch @ 17 Oct 2013 02:02)
But I didn't proc venom... I did short whirls.
Also, did you even consider what you're saying?
How would venom reducing the damage on a poison charm cut the damage of WITHOUT the poison charm in half?

Also, I did a second test, multiple times.
I did a ft5 with a barb who had about the same gear as me

I used 33x 3/20/20s, and I won.
Then I used 32x and a 451, and I lost
What would cause that...?


You can't do test about "I won" and "I lost".

Winning or losing a BvB duel may depend from multiple causes, especially if you duel without shield.

Timing, length of WW's, % cirtical hits, % ow, % cb. BvB without a shield is kind of pointless and surely can't be used as a referring test.

If you want you can test regular hits using 100% DS (so you are sure it will trigger) with and without psn.

Wear an Eth DC and Highlord to cap DS. Take off Dracs, Gores and anything else that might give you Ow or CB.

Then try without psn dmg and with a little psn sc, just to add some psn. Even a +1.

As Jolteown said psn damage only hides the deadly strike animation, nothing else.

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Oct 16 2013 06:50pm
Quote (Tysnatch @ 17 Oct 2013 01:02)
But I didn't proc venom... I did short whirls.
Also, did you even consider what you're saying?
How would venom reducing the damage on a poison charm cut the damage of WITHOUT the poison charm in half?

Also, I did a second test, multiple times.
I did a ft5 with a barb who had about the same gear as me

I used 33x 3/20/20s, and I won.
Then I used 32x and a 451, and I lost
What would cause that...?


RNG. Is this a serious question?
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Oct 17 2013 02:05am
Quote (Jolteown @ Oct 16 2013 05:50pm)
RNG. Is this a serious question?


As I said, this wasn't a one time occurrence.
When I use a 451 in bvb, I tend to lose. This happens every time (not that I lose every time, but I tend to lose more rounds of every ft5)
But when I don't, I win a lot more.

This post was edited by Tysnatch on Oct 17 2013 02:10am
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Oct 17 2013 02:39am
Quote (Tysnatch @ Oct 17 2013 09:05am)
As I said, this wasn't a one time occurrence.
When I use a 451 in bvb, I tend to lose. This happens every time (not that I lose every time, but I tend to lose more rounds of every ft5)
But when I don't, I win a lot more.


use widowmaker in bvb if you are going to lose, np

it forces the other baba to play more aggressive
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Oct 17 2013 04:44am
Quote (Conrick @ Oct 17 2013 09:39am)
use widowmaker in bvb if you are going to lose, np

it forces the other baba to play more aggressive


1. use frw charms and items paired with widowmaker
2. ???
3. profit
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Oct 17 2013 10:33am
Quote (Razor @ Oct 17 2013 03:44am)
1. use frw charms and items paired with widowmaker
2. ???
3. profit


Already listed in the guide lol
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