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Jul 1 2010 01:43am
Quote (Synonym @ Jun 30 2010 10:58pm)
Movement from mob to mob is averagely 2 meters in any area.

Teleporting takes away your Frenzy's fluency as you have to teleport and re-engage combat each time which is actually slower than most right click frenzy barbs, who clear cut through any frame of teleport you might have, in FRW terms, which also means a loss of DPS.

Again, how is teleporting better?
yeah for short distance movement frenzy is faster. but for long distance(aka wp to cs, wp to pit, wp to mauso, wp to tunnels, etc) tele is faster(and when you need decrep & merc dps on enemy of course)

izParagonzi, those numbers arent statistically relevant. The degrees of freedom are small, which implies large reliability ranges.
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Jul 1 2010 03:53am
Quote (yaf @ 1 Jul 2010 07:43)
yeah for short distance movement frenzy is faster. but for long distance(aka wp to cs, wp to pit, wp to mauso, wp to tunnels, etc) tele is faster(and when you need decrep & merc dps on enemy of course)

izParagonzi, those numbers arent statistically relevant. The degrees of freedom are small, which implies large reliability ranges.


You can use najs on switch if you want to.

And skipping river isn't really ideal anyway.... And you can always jump over the rivers so it isnt really that slow even if you are running.

I personally did use enigma on my frenzybarb though.
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Jul 1 2010 04:42am
frenzy lvl 26 run speed with 30 frw: 6+4*(1.8+0.25)=14.2 yards/s
tele speed 105 fcr(and this is vertical, over diagonal or horizontal direction even faster): 8.35*25/8=26 yards/s
tele speed 20 fcr(aka no switch fcr, just arach):8.35*25/11=19 yards/s

its a no brainer, even in a straight line run enigma is faster and allows merc to travel with u for maximum decrep and merc dps and dont need to keep monster activated for run speed

and najs: enjoy 200k repair bill lol, and runs out very fast

This post was edited by yaf on Jul 1 2010 04:44am
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Jul 1 2010 07:39am
k its actually 15.48 yards/s with frenzy and lvl 7 inc speed.. still same logic applies
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Jul 26 2010 11:19pm
25 days overdue for a bump!

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25 days overdue for a bump!

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Aug 10 2010 05:49am
love this guide gj
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it's clear that with this character, you can set it up to do anything well, but you can't necessarily have it all with the same eq like other cookie cutters. as such, i've been pondering a setup that allows the least switch gear and the most user friendly options. of course variants depend on playstyle and expectations, but I would suspect most players would like an average amount of mf (~200ish) and be able to clear areas and kill bosses quickly, as well as rush a friend and do various runs, and kill ubers from time to time, all at a reasonable cost and finishing at clvl90

skills maxed: frenzy, berserk, sword mastery, double swing
1 pointers: pre req's, mace mastery, increase speed, natural resists, find item, battle cry, battle command
stats: max vita, 189 str and 136 dex with gear on (not counting weapons)

gear list: (bold are required, italicized means one or the other depending on preference or what you need to be able to survive, everyone has different skill levels but there are tips in the guide to become more skillful)
2x grief pb
stormlash (eth rune or zod if ethereal)
stone crusher (sheal)
ik helm (ias jewel, cham or ptopaz)
ravenfrost (if no cham in ik), dwarf star or wisp protector for sorb as needed
dual leach ringwith fcr and ar if possible
laying of hands
highlords wrath
war travellers or gore riders
string of ears or arachnids mesh
2x wizzy or 2x hoto or combination there of to achieve desirable fcr on switch
enigma
lt charge wand/dagger or draculs or marrowwalks (preference choice for ubers)
torch, anni, gheeds, max damage/ar/life charms, mf charms, resists charms to top off lit/fire, all as preference

might merc
treachery (equip yourself for fade prebuff for ubers)
reapers toll (preffer ethereal, ber'd or sheal'd or ed/ias jewel'd) ias bp's are at 45 and 75
guillaumes (cham'd or ed/ias jewel'd, equip yourself for ubers)


there are many other options that other people like to use for their intended purpose and playstyles, as well as budget setups that do very well, but I have found this to be the most useful for a diversified character because it offers:
-high damage and mobile main setup with merc for damage support curse and aura while maintaining fair amounts of mf. ideal for multiplayer or singleplayer games
-option for high fcr switch either to teleport or hork with
-option for high cb and cth switch for taking down bosses fast
-switch gear shouldnt take up more than half of your stash space, leaving room to collect what you've found

This post was edited by MajinKaisa on Aug 10 2010 01:09pm
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Aug 12 2010 08:09am
Hello, lovely build.
Can I ask, I have Grief Pb and Death CS and I am kinda' confused with the WSM or things like that, can I ask, should Pb be placed at the glove side or Death? =)

Thanks!
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Quote (Archetypal @ Aug 12 2010 02:09pm)
Hello, lovely build.
Can I ask, I have Grief Pb and Death CS and I am kinda' confused with the WSM or things like that, can I ask, should Pb be placed at the glove side or Death? =)

Thanks!


pb first on boot side
unbugs if you switch weapons though
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