I just snorted some soda after reading the first line.

Total facepalm.

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I mean if you need 4+ CE to kill something that a lot compared to 2 CE in 1 player game.

Yeah and it takes like 5x longer to kill shit with skeletons in an 8 player game, which is already fairly slow.



And btw, they ARE just meatshields, even though they CAN do moderate damage, It's not needed and certainly not utilized when you are clearing everything with with CE anyways.


It's not that thier damage is too low, it's that they don't get a chance to use it.

why are we using a summon necro in an 8 player game?

Why not? It's a great & fast PvM clearer, regardless.

well i guess i just disagree with you guys. i say skellies are not just a meatshield and help quite a bit. i use hoto/spirit/etc build with silkweaves (if i was opposed to using manapots and wanted endless mana)
and i would prefer to give my boots up than my shield up in that case.

125 fcr = hoto/spirit/trang/arach/fcr ring or ammy. rest is basic.
i would use infinity merc with beast iron golem
i also advocate decrep vs bosses (mainly just ubers since others die too quickly anyways)
i also use mages in my build since i do have infinity.. mind as well use something that supports it. if you are totally against it, i would put more into ce (i usually only do a couple hard points in and let the rest come from +skills)
etc etc.

i am not saying other builds work since summoner is one of the most customizable chars in the game since you literally need no gear/minor gear.

FLAME ON

You don't need 125 fcr, and it's actually less effective than a 75 build.
Homu>Spirit, discussed already.

The skeletons are simply too slow for you to show their real potential, since CE obliterates everything before they have a chance to attack more than a single mob.

GG nice man

Less effective? Yeah 125% less effective than 75%, nice find.

Yeah homu 100x times better cause mana > all, right? Drinking 2 pots in 1 minute it's too difficutl..

Also have you ever tried killing single monsters like bosses, ancients, ubers, etc.? I mean CE does not work there or you still kill them with CE ?

When a 75 build offers more +skills to CE, yeah, it's more effective. CE doesn't need to be spammed like hammers.
Homu is better because it offers more to amp range and yes, maek, which is godly in pvm. Drinking pots is a hassle not worth having in fast area clearing.

A 75CB treachery/guill/infinity merc is the act boss killer, not your skeletons.

This post was edited by Synonym on Aug 14 2010 01:42pm