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Quote (olba @ Thu, Jul 20 2006, 10:30pm)
Firstly, I would like to praise your guide. I haven't read all the strategies yet, but so far it seems to be a really good guide.

Secondly, I would like to praise you for being the best Hammerdin I've dueled so far. I think I've dueled you a couple of times in pub games, each time I've made too long whirls and ended up dying. (charactername: Mutodori, a lvl 91 BvC)

Thirdly, it's nice to have some Europe-based guides instead of all those US guides. By the way, I read a comment, where you said that BB is the best of all belts for every single character in the game. This is incorrect. For example, ES sorcs do not need any DR, however they could use BB to add stats. BvCs, they can/do use BB versus hammerdins/smiters, but as their default belt, BB sucks, as it has no FCR nor any other desirable stats for a BvC except the DR%.

I'm still amazed at the fact that I got raped by telehammers. Guess I have to practise some more, or start not using Fortitude+Widowmaker versus offensive Hammerdins.

I take it you are a living example of what Morotsjos said to me, "a 100% offensive hammerdin".

As for your build, it seems pretty solid, and it's packed with godly items, thus powering it up even more. However, I do not doubt that you couldn't beat people with even 5% of that gear.


Hi there.
Well if i said BB is the best belt for all chars, i was exaggerating. For those char that need fc BP of some reason might find another sollution (namely sorcs in most cases). However i think BB > Verdungo any day of the week, no question about it.

Yes ofc you can own almost as hard without these godly items. I diden't play much better when i got all these stuff then i did before that. They are however outstanding to have when you face 7on1 etc (or just vs any kind of elemental enemy) since it helps alot vs different ele dmg.

This post was edited by --TheJesus-- on Jul 20 2006 04:57pm
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im making the godliest hammerdin...im serious...its about a 100$ pally i have a few questions i heard that 11k dmg is the breakpoint for pallys, is that true? also, i was thinking the only char i might be scared of is a godly foher...now im a very skilled duelist. and i think every other char will be easy, including fcers and such. this is going to be my setup...i think it is going to be better then the one you provided in your tut.

350/11Dr/30res/2os CoA (berber) 27%dr
40% Hoto Flail
1035Def MP Nigma
35/110/45 starge
196/20/17 marrowwalks
5% bk
10fcr/20str/15dex/24fr/7cr ring
40/15/129% Dungos
2pally/20fcr/7str ammy
6/6/3 cs cta
bo spirit
20/19ptorch
20/19/10 anni
now im not quite sure how many pcombs because a few people told me Dmg bp was 11k, but it will be 14k if i use 9x 30+ life pcombs
10x 20lifescs (if there is no bp)


now with this build with 9x pcombs, ive already made it on open, and this is the stats.


125fcr/95fhr/14kdmg/50%block/50%dr/4.2k life


what you think?


message me back please, i would like to hear from you. thanks very much

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wsn-jigsaw would clearly rape this build
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rip thejesus u suck
u use aa
u are random noob still
sry truth happy.gif
no respect
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Jul 21 2006 12:49am
Quote (TB+LJ @ Fri, Jul 21 2006, 12:45am)
im making the godliest hammerdin...im serious...its about a 100$ pally i have a few questions i heard that 11k dmg is the breakpoint for pallys, is that true? also, i was thinking the only char i might be scared of is a godly foher...now im a very skilled duelist. and i think every other char will be easy, including fcers and such. this is going to be my setup...i think it is going to be better then the one you provided in your tut.

350/11Dr/30res/2os CoA (berber) 27%dr
40% Hoto Flail
1035Def MP Nigma
35/110/45 starge
196/20/17 marrowwalks
5% bk
10fcr/20str/15dex/24fr/7cr ring
40/15/129% Dungos
2pally/20fcr/7str ammy
6/6/3 cs cta
bo spirit
20/19ptorch
20/19/10 anni
now im not quite sure how many pcombs because a few people told me Dmg bp was 11k, but it will be 14k if i use 9x 30+ life pcombs
10x 20lifescs (if there is no bp)


now with this build with 9x pcombs, ive already made it on open, and this is the stats.


125fcr/95fhr/14kdmg/50%block/50%dr/4.2k life


what you think?


message me back please, i would like to hear from you. thanks very much

Tyler-


Sry to dissapoint you, but that hammer is no way near my hammer : ) However it can still own if you read/change some things. Actually most of the setup/items on your list is not recommended (dungos, marrow, fc ring, 2 bers in coa etc) which probably means you haven't even read the guide ^^

You nn str additions on rings etc. 4,2 k life is to low. 95 fhr isen't necessary. cap is 86. 9 pc skillers is a huge mistake in this type of build. Read guide m8, guess you missed out a whole lot. I won't write a book about your pallys setup (pros and cons) just read and you will find most of the answers and draw your own conclusions. Hope it will work out for you. Cheers

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Quote (moogles- @ Fri, Jul 21 2006, 01:07am)
wsn-jigsaw would clearly rape this build


Then stick to his build, couldn't care less. I'm to tired to flame/argue about such a insignificant matter nowdays. I know for sure "his" build isen't better since you can't possibly get a better build then this w 125 fc 86 fhr 51 dr w spirit, simple is that. But feel free to explain that build of him and i will tell to you why it's inferior. Easy to state things without backing them up huh?

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Quote (drack @ Fri, Jul 21 2006, 01:20am)
rip thejesus u suck
u use aa
u are random noob still
sry truth happy.gif
no respect


Envy me ty

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Jul 21 2006 01:26am
Quote (-TheJesus-- @ Fri, Jul 21 2006, 06:50am)
Quote (drack @ Fri, Jul 21 2006, 01:20am)
rip thejesus u suck
u use aa
u are random noob still
sry truth happy.gif
no respect


Envy me ty


It's ok, there are always ppl like you that want to challenge/speak shit about me (I'm used to that since long) when getting ownd or when someone plays that good that you actually believe I use AA. Sry m8 I just see it as a compliment since I've never used any types of cheat since 1.10 ladder where i used MH. So ty again. Always guys that can't find any flaws and just have to write something negative just for the sake of it, laughing.

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Jul 21 2006 02:46am
seriously one of the best guides I've read (I've read basically all of them), especially if it took you an hour to write. I'm in the process of making one, and I'm on ladder. Would you recommend using dungos instead of the bugged belt? (too bad you only reach 41% dr though) Does the bugged belt have 5% dr? Sorry if this has already been covered, I only read the first 5, and last 2 pages.
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Quote (TB+LJ @ Fri, Jul 21 2006, 12:45am)
im making the godliest hammerdin...im serious...its about a 100$ pally i have a few questions i heard that 11k dmg is the breakpoint for pallys, is that true? also, i was thinking the only char i might be scared of is a godly foher...now im a very skilled duelist. and i think every other char will be easy, including fcers and such. this is going to be my setup...i think it is going to be better then the one you provided in your tut.

350/11Dr/30res/2os CoA (berber) 27%dr
40% Hoto Flail
1035Def MP Nigma
35/110/45 starge
196/20/17 marrowwalks
5% bk
10fcr/20str/15dex/24fr/7cr ring
40/15/129% Dungos
2pally/20fcr/7str ammy
6/6/3 cs cta
bo spirit
20/19ptorch
20/19/10 anni
now im not quite sure how many pcombs because a few people told me Dmg bp was 11k, but it will be 14k if i use 9x 30+ life pcombs
10x 20lifescs (if there is no bp)


now with this build with 9x pcombs, ive already made it on open, and this is the stats.


125fcr/95fhr/14kdmg/50%block/50%dr/4.2k life


what you think?


message me back please, i would like to hear from you. thanks very much

Tyler-


Sry to dissapoint you, but that hammer is no way near my hammer : ) However it can still own if you read/change some things. Actually most of the setup/items on your list is not recommended (dungos, marrow, fc ring, 2 bers in coa etc) which probably means you haven't even read the guide ^^

You nn str additions on rings etc. 4,2 k life is to low. 95 fhr isen't necessary. cap is 86. 9 pc skillers is a huge mistake in this type of build. Read guide m8, guess you missed out a whole lot. I won't write a book about your pallys setup (pros and cons) just read and you will find most of the answers and draw your own conclusions. Hope it will work out for you. Cheers


first of all you didnt answer my question. is there such thing as a hammer damage cap? if there is my hammerdin would use more 20lifescs and have 11k hammer damage and about 4.7k life

well see i would have 85 fhr if i didnt use dungos, thats why its 95, marrows are for dex + str (for more block/174str) fcr ring is for same reason as marrows, berber coa so i can have 50%dr (dr cap)

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