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Nov 7 2009 12:54pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Nov 7 2009 06:37pm)
having 2 socs and 2sin/20fcr/life or res or something is more important than visionary mod.... as for you claw its good.

u just have to reverse it.. so instead of using the fools in a fast claw, now you should use the chaos in a fast claw and wsm bug it the other way around. get it?

ur stuff is fine - just make sure to ber the helm


thx for the advice.. so i should not use THIS chaos then? I should instead use a Ruinc talon's for chaos?


just out of curiosity if i use the chaos and the fools I've shown you in these pics, what will be my ww breakpoint?
I didn't notice if your guide had the ww breakpoints for assassin or if they're the same as a barb's breakpoints or what

Like, i mean.. would "Greater Talons" suffice? or should i look for ruinc just for the dmg

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thx for the advice.. so i should not use THIS chaos then? I should instead use a Ruinc talon's for chaos?
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7977/screenshot241w.jpg

just out of curiosity if i use the chaos and the fools I've shown you in these pics, what will be my ww breakpoint?
I didn't notice if your guide had the ww breakpoints for assassin or if they're the same as a barb's breakpoints or what

Like, i mean.. would "Greater Talons" suffice?  It has -20


greater talons=-30

are you talking about greater claws?
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Nov 7 2009 12:59pm
Quote (tudey @ Nov 7 2009 06:58pm)
greater talons=-30

are you talking about greater claws?


no i meant greater talons i was confused, it's just the exceptional version instead of elite..
will the less phsyical damage be a big obstacle? Or is the just he ww breakpoint hte only thing that truly matters
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Nov 7 2009 01:01pm
Quote (Spectre_187 @ 7 Nov 2009 20:59)
no i meant greater talons i was confused, it's just the exceptional version instead of elite..
will the less phsyical damage be a big obstacle?  Or is the just he ww breakpoint hte only thing that truly matters


greater talons=-30, not -20

ww breakpoint=-13

any greater talon(-30) hits ww breakpoint

any suwayaah(0) with 13+ ias hits ww breakpoint

you really dont need to worry much about them, you hit the breakpoints with about every single claw a hyb could use

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Quote (tudey @ Nov 7 2009 02:01pm)
greater talons=-30, not -20

ww breakpoint=-13

any greater talon(-30) hits ww breakpoint

any suwayaah(0) with 13+ ias hits ww breakpoint


besides the claw speed is really more about lay speed then ww bp the ww bp is ez.
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Nov 7 2009 01:02pm
Quote (myfryhole @ 7 Nov 2009 21:01)
besides the claw speed is really more about lay speed then ww bp the ww bp is ez.


this
ww bp is not something you need to worry much about
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Nov 7 2009 01:03pm
Quote (Bryant @ Nov 2 2009 04:42pm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2C7ZlvlSUE

That video is coming from the barb's perspective, but it shows what you should be doing to the barb on sin.
Notice how the sin only traps for almost the whole duel. That's what you should be doing: avoiding ww hits and chipping away with traps.
You won't be doing as little damage to the barb only because the sin he's dueling is a shadow bruiser (maxed claw mastery hybrid. 5k trap damage).
At 1:45 is what you need to be doing. Barb WSG's out and gets hit by a SHORT ww. Remember not to do giant long whirls, or else the barb will have time to react and whirl you back.


this is a sick video.

does that sin use 102 or 65 fcr?
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Nov 7 2009 01:13pm
wow.. so basically i'll have the highest ww breakpoint? hehe sweet.
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Nov 7 2009 01:22pm
I noticed a lot of people highly suggest to keybind Whirlwind to the right side. Is there a reason? I personally have been using Whirlwind on the Left for a long time now.
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I noticed a lot of people highly suggest to keybind Whirlwind to the right side. Is there a reason? I personally have been using Whirlwind on the Left for a long time now.

easier to whirl with rightclick, no need to shift leftclick, also no chance of misclicking and namelock whirling a minion or something if you mean to run/sidestep and not whirl.
also its just easier to play sins with all hotkeys on rightclick, leftclick being used for chainlocking with some kind of melee attack and all hotkeys on rightclick.
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