come on someone has to know? since the op didnt put it in his guide =(

This post was edited by Etachi on Mar 1 2008 05:50am

it's not that hard to figure out, it's almost the same for all classes. enough str and dex to wear gear, rest into vit. the only exception would be if you're wearing ss, in which case enough dex for max block. but dual claws are much better ofc.

well i started playing 1 week ago or so so still learning about things so just want to be sure ^^. ok, about how much str/dex do you think? I don't have the gear yet but mfing alot so hopefully i'll be having them soon.

first equip all of your charms and gear that you can equip right away, then start statting str/dex to wear your gear.

then shift-click vitality. ez.

no cta..?

you clearly haven't tested out your shit. you say 5x WoF x 5 waves = 25 x 1.5K, but nextdelay means you won't even get half that much. plus they aren't auto-aim so you probably won't get 5 shots out of them either. also, you say 10K fireblast on fire sin. rotfl. at level 50 with maxed fire traps, fireblast doesn't even do HALF that much damage. you clearly haven't TESTED any of this shit. you say you NEED BoS for w/s build when you don't, you can use spirit phase blade + 15/15 stormshield and 30/30 circlet and get fastest trapping speed plus great dr plus fade plus max block on a w/s build. spirit/hoto is trash. you suggest getting 57% block which doesn't make any sense, you spend 3 points to get from 56-57, but it only costs 2 points to get from 57-58 and from 58-59. jahs are shit to put in a trapper helm since the dr% on that build already sucks ass, which it SHOULDN'T for a 65 fcr build, you can use dungos or coa to get max dr% easily and have points left over to max mindblast or fireblast or something useful. you don't even MENTION dancers as a boot option. you suggest two shaels in the primary claw INSTEAD OF 15/15s because you need the ias, which you DON'T, you can use one shael and one 15/15 and still get the ias bp with bfists. your dueling "Strategy", if i can even call it that, is so basic it doesn't even warrant mentioning. and RAVEN of a c/c trapper? what are you SMOKING? cham the helm for cbf and put on a bk or something useful. your skills fail to take into account any customization whatsoever, if the player doesn't get the exact same gear the % claw block will be totally off. with your chaos + fury build, you don't mention to put a point into venom which immediately makes their ww damage almost double for the price of a single point. plus it totally fucks up their claw block, if they skill it the same way as listed above it will suck ass.

overall, the whole guide is an absolute disgrace considering it's the only pvp trapper guide on jsp.

This post was edited by darcanegel on Apr 11 2008 12:37am

bohoo tears wigger.
the nextdelay is only 4 frames, if you have your opponent locked, he will get all 5 shots.

no idea bout that 10k fb, if you checked d2skills.com, it will come out as a bit short of 5k but tested it for real ever?

w/s is inferior to c/c in every aspect that's why i never even bothered to list the gear for it properly. why waste helm socket for cham and use a FUCKING BK? it's useless, raven is a lot better with 20 dex and cbf.

this guide was simply theorycrafting for boring 3 hours at work, your guide was work of 3 months and it still sucks ahahahahha, yeah it really matters shit if the damage is 20 or 10 for ww... because the damage won't double dumbass, heard of pvp penalty and poison resistances?

a WoF takes maybe 2 seconds tops to throw all 5 waves? so 25 waves from 5 traps in 2 seconds means an average of 2 frames per wave, meaning half of them will get cancelled out with 5 WoF.

i've got a fire hybrid with maxed fire traps RIGHT FUCKING NOW and it's around 4K fireblast. so you're damn fucking straight i've tested it.

w/s is better versus zons and barbs, plus it's a lot cheaper. personally i prefer c/c as well, but listing an absolute shit setup is irresponsible.

you don't need the dex from raven as long as you get some from your rings/amulet/wws/dancers to wear GTs, bk gives 50 life plus more bo = 110 life, PLUS the trap damage, mindblast, and EVERYTHING ELSE.

and the listed damage does double by adding 1 pt of venom (which i realize doesn't mean it will do that much more actual damage, however some players have low res, especially in the shitty pubs you'd have to be playing in to duel with this mess), but more importantly it will cut underneath ES and bone armor, etc. it's one point and your skills only go up to level 82 or something.

and that was what, 10 major errors in a guide that's a few pages? lets see how many you can find in mine, which is ten times longer (and before you try it, i'm aware that i typoed life/fhr scs, it's supposed to be fhr/res).

here are a few more, while i'm at it.

you don't give any other options than bloodfists on a trapper, which are very questionable at best, especially on a fire trapper where mages give extra skills AND fcr which allows you to use dungos, coa, or shako.
you don't elaborate past lvl 65 on your fire trapper skills setup
your "mindblast mindblast trap trap" doesn't make any sense, trapping twice will give any good wsgers plenty of time to teleport away, you need to alternate them.

would you like some more?

if you build a fireblast focused fire sin, you can get 9.5+ with c/c. if you facet the helm, you can probably hit 10k. he's not that far off.

you really need to calm down.

This post was edited by Dumpling on Apr 11 2008 02:18am

you'd need to max some light trap synergies to do that, which he doesn't.

anyway this is just retaliation i was laughing on the inside the whole time i wrote it.

and also, he claimed credit for the guide, revealing him as multi so if he keeps spamming i'll report him.