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Feb 4 2011 04:57pm
Quote (Hatecrew666 @ Feb 2 2011 04:06pm)
Why would you use a Might merc for this if you are suffering from AR issues? I thought the main idea is to spam BSpear and amp? Would you rather not use a merc with a Blessed Aim? Also could you not swap out the Helm for a Visionary? Has this been tested with a Act 1 Faith Merc yet for the bonus ar/ias therefore freeing up the wasted the soc in the helm, if you chose to use the G Face? Ofc you can still soc it with a ias jool, but if you went the act 1 faith merc route this would not be needed. Also how would a treachery work on this build too? If you suffer from res/dr the fade could come in handy.

One last thing, could this build also not be used by the variation of a bearzon? Thus using Penetrate to increase AR% to hit(thus procing the BSpear more frequently) as well as the doj/avoid/evade? Or even as a barbarian, fixing the issue with lower res/defense as well as a great BO/Shout combo since you are freeing up points from a mastery as well as a main attack? Also with the barb could you not use a visionary helm with the old "ChamBer" so you can free up a space and use another Ravenfrost for more dex/ar? Just some thoughts I came up with as I read this guide.. It is interesting to see this being done, and good idea on the demon xbow.[-60] base attack speed. I might dabble in a bit of this on some other characters and see if this can be viable for more than just the necromancer.

No I am not picking this build apart, it seems interesting. Constructive criticism I would say :D

Nice Build, 10/10 imo for uniqueness, as well as giving insight on some other types of characters who could benefit from this possibly?



This character doesnt suffer in the chance to hit category, as this is addressed in the initial post. Two sources, ITD = all fodder monsters along with . -83% defense (you can get buy with 17% of normal hell ar) for bosses, champs unq's and the rest.

Might adds damage while BA adds unnecessary attack ratting %. Damage is king.

Ive done bear zons, but brand isnt doing much on a bear zon. The ctc spear is pretty much nill damage, while brand does not compete with botd, and grief as a melee wep if your not gaining synergy.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Feb 4 2011 04:59pm
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Feb 5 2011 06:00pm
This build sounds really interesting! I think I'll test it out :)
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Feb 23 2011 12:21pm
finally found a demon crossbow and cubed it to 4sox :)

did my first cs run with this necro, worked quite good.

but i'm missing lifeleech in this build

i think about replacing gface with gaze
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Feb 23 2011 01:26pm
changed my mind

will keep gface

and replace dwarf with a crafted 11%ll ring

also thinking about replacing tgod belt with string 8%ll 15%dr
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Apr 25 2011 08:59am
wow im glad i saw this it looks fun.. but the runes for the bow are ridic >.>
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Apr 29 2011 06:12pm
Just made this. heres some real numbers:

915-1508 Attack Damage
2k Life
~1200 bone spear

This is obviously A LOT less then suggested in the build, and while its still fun to play it's very disappointing that the numbers are so far off.
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Apr 29 2011 06:24pm
Quote (btlyger @ Apr 29 2011 07:12pm)
Just made this.  heres some real numbers:

915-1508 Attack Damage
2k Life
~1200 bone spear

This is obviously A LOT less then suggested in the build, and while its still fun to play it's very disappointing that the numbers are so far off.


your life does look really low , half to 2/3 less then all the other bonebears , but the damage is comparable to what some of the others have posted here.

4-5K true damage, not lcs.

1200 avg damage @x 2 =2.4K (from 80%ds, the true avg is slightly lower but you pretty much always hit double)
2.4 after amp -100 phy res means they take double damage most of the time (refer to bestiary for monster base res , this was stated in the guide)
which means your true phy damage is 4-5K , which was accurately expressed in the guide.

that doesnt account for cb, extra damage to demons and undead, and any elemental damage either. 4-5K phy+ 1100 spear is reasonable damage for melee nec.

I'm glad you had fun on the build, but where disappointed with its damage. Your the first so far who's posted that has felt that way. The fun thing about diablo is there's always another build to try, so I hope your next goes better. Perhaps some of the confusion could have been spared if you've reread the guide and the other posters opinions who made them more carefully.



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" Setup as I suggest your going to have 80%+ Deadly strike which doubles your damage and the amp ontop of that with 50% crushing blow. In many cases your going to be doing 4X your lcs ( -100 phy res, damage varies according to the monsters base res) QUAD DAMAGE"


This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Apr 29 2011 06:30pm
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Apr 29 2011 06:34pm
Do you prebuff cta? Because the build does not state that you do that and I assumed it wasn't needed for the HP.
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Jun 21 2011 12:30pm
Quote (Master_Zappy @ 11 Mar 2010 00:59)
[I][COLOR=red]The Wep itself is ITD which will work on all fodder monsters, and the merc has infinnity which reduces enemies defenses 83% allowing you to get by with almost no ar vs champs, bosses and unq's.


What is ITD?

By the way... Great guide!

2 questions:
Ive made this char in Hero editor to try it out in SP.

-How the hell do you get 4-5k phys dmg? I only get to hit 1.2k [EDIT. Just saw your last message. Now I've seen the calculations ^^]

-Wouldn't it be a better idea to make an Iron Golem out of Beast or Faith, to boost up your damage, IAS and AR?

This post was edited by rofonator on Jun 21 2011 12:32pm
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