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Jun 30 2010 02:42pm
it doesnt matter what you run, u need tele for all(except shenk,eld,pindle lol) and you need tele for merc reaper decrep.

And yeah for bosses frenzy is more dps than berserk except if cant scare seal boss away or etc..


100 base modifier + lvl 24 might + 600 str + 74 eni str + lvl26 mastery + lvl 26 barb ed skills
ww: 100 + 270 + 600 + 74 + 153 + 150= 1197+150=1347
frenzy: 100 + 270 + 600 + 74 + 153 + 535= 1732
berzerk:100 + 270 + 600 + 74 + 153 + 925= 2122

Speeds: WW effectively 2.35 fpa(4/1.7 as second weapon hits 70% oftime)
Berserk 9 fpa, frenzy 5 fpa.

Total DPS ratio: 573:346:236 or in percentages:

Berserk does 100% damage,
Frenzy does 147% damage,
WW does 243% damage.


This post was edited by yaf on Jun 30 2010 02:44pm
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Jun 30 2010 02:43pm
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it doesnt matter what you run, u need tele for all(except shenk,eld,pindle lol) and you need tele for merc reaper decrep


Again, you don't need tele for moving from act to act. That's why we have TP's.
For wide-area all-mob clearing, how is Enigma > 300% off-weapon ED?
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Jun 30 2010 02:43pm
awesome guide, i'll try a frenzy barb :)
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Jun 30 2010 02:52pm
movement to the cleaning areas takes time too(even if pit&co with their lower drops than cs) unless u want lvl 70ish area monster kills lol, and getting effective merc usage(dps &decrep) requires eni
also look how much time merc wanders around without eni:


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movement to the cleaning areas takes time too(even if pit&co with their lower drops than cs) unless u want lvl 70ish area monster kills lol, and getting effective merc usage(dps &decrep) requires eni


Movement from mob to mob is averagely 2 meters in any area.

Teleporting takes away your Frenzy's fluency as you have to teleport and re-engage combat each time which is actually slower than most right click frenzy barbs, who clear cut through any frame of teleport you might have, in FRW terms, which also means a loss of DPS.

Again, how is teleporting better?
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Jun 30 2010 03:04pm
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BTW do some statistics on drops.. some botters posted some i believe, chaos drops beat other lvl 85 areas(not surprisingly)


The ONLY reason why Chaos seems better drop area is based on the amount of monsters in such a small enclosure, thus increasing the speed of runs.

Here are some ACTUAL personal finds based on just two (2) areas:
River vs Chaos

Crown of Ages... 3 found in total... 3 from River / none from chaos
Steelrends ... 3 found in total... 1 from River / none from chaos (1 found in pit / and City of the Damned)
Griffons Eye... 5 found in total... 4 from River / none from chaos (1 found in Throne room)

I have found numerous Mav's items in Chaos and a few other minor items... most of my best drops come from the following areas.

River
Pit
Ancient Tunnels
WSK lvls 1/2 & 3
Throne
TRISTRAM... before 1.13 I found 90% of my high runes in that area.

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The ONLY reason why Chaos seems better drop area is based on the amount of monsters in such a small enclosure, thus increasing the speed of runs.

Here are some ACTUAL personal finds based on just two (2) areas:
River vs Chaos

Crown of Ages... 3 found in total... 3 from River / none from chaos
Steelrends ... 3 found in total... 1 from River / none from chaos (1 found in pit / and City of the Damned)
Griffons Eye... 5 found in total... 4 from River / none from chaos (1 found in Throne room)

I have found numerous Mav's items in Chaos and a few other minor items... most of my best drops come from the following areas.

River
Pit
Ancient Tunnels
WSK lvls 1/2 & 3
Throne
TRISTRAM... before 1.13 I found 90% of my high runes in that area.


Still waiting on your arguments @ cow zon topic, looking forward to hearing your comments :)
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Jun 30 2010 03:14pm
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Still waiting on your arguments @ cow zon topic, looking forward to hearing your comments :)


Will get onto that also... been LS'ing lately since it reset about 5 days ago.
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@ Enigma comments for frenzy barb.
You do not... i repeat... NOT... need enigma...

The base running speed from frenzy ensures that you can use TACTICS to benefit the build better than using enigma.
If you rely on your merc to be within your range, then you need to re-evaluate your gameplay... you are the one playing
your character, you should only rely on YOUR skills to clear areas.

I will always prefer to use:
Fortitude or Duress on my Frenzy barb... if I want to teleport like a sorc, I just use a barb skill ammy with charges... if I do not have that, I use the barb how it is meant to be used... annihilate what stands in front of me, especially when it is in the way of my goal.

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Jun 30 2010 03:41pm
Teleport is gz on a Frenzier. Teleport and bam! Zerk to face!!

Oh wait, that's a different build :huh:
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Jun 30 2010 04:36pm
Quote (CompanyOfThree @ Jul 1 2010 09:41am)
Teleport is gz on a Frenzier. Teleport and bam! Zerk to face!!

Oh wait, that's a different build :huh:


Actually... it isn't really, just depends on the skill setup of the Frienzier.
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