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Nov 2 2009 12:26pm
Quote (quicksand @ Nov 2 2009 01:36pm)
I do 7.4k traps.I play vs a friend and he namelocks really good.One mistake and im dead.At the start of the duel i try to ww him hoping for open wounds to kick in.Then i find myself at half hp :(


er... if ur friend plays d2pk or useast i'll duel him and u can watch but otherwise all i can say is watch youtube
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Nov 2 2009 12:41pm
Quote (quicksand @ Nov 2 2009 05:36pm)
I do 7.4k traps.I play vs a friend and he namelocks really good.One mistake and im dead.At the start of the duel i try to ww him hoping for open wounds to kick in.Then i find myself at half hp :(


Don't try to force a ww hit. Trading hits with a barb is a bad idea.
Start playing trapper style from the start, only go for whirls when you think you can land an unanswered whirl hit (most likely while the barb is trying to walk out of traps or something and not in whirl and not out of hit recovery yet) and get away to safety asap. Unless you know you are at a point where you can outmuscle the barb (still probably a bad idea that could turn the duel around for the barb). If you want to get ow on the barb look for an opening but don't be too eager to attempt a whirl pass if the barb can hit back with a whirl.
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Quote (quicksand @ 2 Nov 2009 18:36)
I do 7.4k traps.I play vs a friend and he namelocks really good.One mistake and im dead.At the start of the duel i try to ww him hoping for open wounds to kick in.Then i find myself at half hp :(


namelock quicker than him, mindblast gimps teleport so he's forced to ww out of a lock which you shouldn't get hit by.
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Quote (Ziecheik @ Nov 2 2009 02:41pm)
Don't try to force a ww hit. Trading hits with a barb is a bad idea.
Start playing trapper style from the start, only go for whirls when you think you can land an unanswered whirl hit (most likely while the barb is trying to walk out of traps or something and not in whirl and not out of hit recovery yet) and get away to safety asap. Unless you know you are at a point where you can outmuscle the barb (still probably a bad idea that could turn the duel around for the barb). If you want to get ow on the barb look for an opening but don't be too eager to attempt a whirl pass if the barb can hit back with a whirl.


this is basically what i do. but its really hard to explain in words for someone who doesnt know what you are talking about.

he needs to youtube videos of trapper or hybrid vs barbs and see how thy move to avoid getting hit and stuff. and when the barb gets locked + needs to wsg out (aka the time to stomp + ww and tele away)
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Nov 2 2009 02:51pm
hows everyone doing?
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That video is coming from the barb's perspective, but it shows what you should be doing to the barb on sin.
Notice how the sin only traps for almost the whole duel. That's what you should be doing: avoiding ww hits and chipping away with traps.
You won't be doing as little damage to the barb only because the sin he's dueling is a shadow bruiser (maxed claw mastery hybrid. 5k trap damage).
At 1:45 is what you need to be doing. Barb WSG's out and gets hit by a SHORT ww. Remember not to do giant long whirls, or else the barb will have time to react and whirl you back.
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Hmmm...tnx for the answers.Should i switch to trap skillers while fightning bvc's ? My ar is low anyway and i dindnt find a good fools claw.So ww is used defensive mode only.
Btw 7.4 k traps are almost scratching him when using thundergods (no wisps though :) )
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Hmmm...tnx for the answers.Should i switch to trap skillers while fightning bvc's ? My ar is low anyway and i dindnt find a good fools claw.So ww is used defensive mode only.
Btw 7.4 k traps are almost scratching him when using thundergods (no wisps though :) )


if he wisps + tgod thats bm sorb and u wont beat him on a sin if he over sorbs.... thats like asking a sorc to kill a sorbing necro lol. wont work

but yea... if u do it right. 7.4k traps will be fine. u shouldnt nneed to swap to trap gcs
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Nov 3 2009 01:54am
Fine guide. =]
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Quote (Lombimars @ Jun 30 2009 02:37am)
Well dunno in east, but in europe there are not much good necro anyway^^ and a good hybsin could be able to kill a good necro.

(btw i'm gonna read this guide lol, afk reading)


you cant be AFK if you read something on the Computer ^^


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godly guide :D
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