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Feb 24 2010 12:52am
Quote (alphasquare @ Feb 24 2010 01:50am)
shako>all


Quote (TerminalVertigo @ Feb 22 2010 10:33pm)
shako on a zealot?

ever heard of crown of ages?


Get good random.

Quote (Neutralman @ Feb 23 2010 08:19pm)
OMG, I said SOME of the setups suck!!


Oh yeah btw I have used pretty much every setup in my guide (with some changes to them based on what I wanted for my zealot at the time) and owned practically the entirety of your "melee" guild so no none of the setups "suck" ;)

Although that was a while ago when 'melee' guild was pretty much a joke so not like it was hard to do with my "sucky" setups. But then again it does come down to how you stat your zealot to decide how well you do. And I did very well regardless of what setup I used. -_-

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Get good random.





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nice paladin guild :drool:
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Feb 24 2010 06:26am
Quote (dark-soul @ Feb 24 2010 01:52am)
Oh yeah btw I have used pretty much every setup in my guide (with some changes to them based on what I wanted for my zealot at the time) and owned practically the entirety of your "melee" guild so no none of the setups "suck"  ;)

Although that was a while ago when 'melee' guild was pretty much a joke so not like it was hard to do with my "sucky" setups. But then again it does come down to how you stat your zealot to decide how well you do. And I did very well regardless of what setup I used.  -_-


Well right now in all the ranked ladder tap duels, 90% uses the Shako build, 5% visionary build, other 5% split between C/C and random builds (myself).

Taken from the first page. If I use the gladiator's bane setup, in comparison to the shako build, assuming inventory is the same, I lose:

1043 average damage
4% Damage Reduction
529 life
1071 attack rating
-4% pvp target defense

Only thing I gain from gladiator bane setup is 766 defense. This is an overwhelming difference between the two setups. Sure occasionally I'll get on a hot streak and own everyone, but over time, shako build will win. I myself refuse to use the shako/visionary build because it's very boring and ugly :D

Jesse look what joo done!!!

This post was edited by Neutralman on Feb 24 2010 06:40am
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Well right now in all the ranked ladder tap duels, 90% uses the Shako build, 5% visionary build,  other 5% split between C/C and random builds (myself). 

Taken from the first page.  If I use the gladiator's bane setup, in comparison to the shako build, assuming inventory is the same, I lose:

1043 average damage
4% Damage Reduction
529 life
1071 attack rating
-4% pvp target defense

Only thing I gain from gladiator bane setup is 766 defense.  This is an overwhelming difference between the two setups.  Sure occasionally I'll get on a hot streak and own everyone, but over time, shako build will win.  I myself refuse to use the shako/visionary build because it's very boring and ugly :D 

Jesse look what joo done!!!


Like I said though not everyone can afford shaft setups. Gbane setup is a lot cheaper than a shaft setup is (unless it's a glitched gbane ofc). I wasn't going to just make a guide with only two setups in it. Also when I first made my guide not many people even used shako setup. I was one of the first zealots to really build my zealot around the shako setup.

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shako shaft was the second setup i could afford (first was ebotdz/evalor/coa/ss) and very effective.
however on west where exile is bm, my defense with shako-shaft-ealma is low (34k) compared to eprudence users (40-50k) and I have a hard time vs high def builds.
not to mention my zealot is only lvl93 :(.
but yeah, overall shako>all
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Quote (dark-soul @ Feb 24 2010 03:20pm)
Like I said though not everyone can afford shaft setups. Gbane setup is a lot cheaper than a shaft setup is (unless it's a glitched gbane ofc). I wasn't going to just make a guide with only two setups in it. Also when I first made my guide not many people even used shako setup. I was one of the first zealots to really build my zealot around the shako setup.


They all learned shako is leetzor after reading your guide :D I blame you for making tap duels boring!!!

I really want to make a non-tap setups guide, but am afraid of the loss of diversity in builds once its posted.

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They all learned shako is leetzor after reading your guide :D I blame you for making tap duels boring!!!

I really want to make a non-tap setups guide, but am afraid of the loss of diversity in builds once its posted.


Yeah, non tap>
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They all learned shako is leetzor after reading your guide :D  I blame you for making tap duels boring!!! 

I really want to make a non-tap setups guide, but am afraid of the loss of diversity in builds once its posted.


actually non-tap opens a lot of diversity
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Quote (alphasquare @ Feb 24 2010 04:05pm)
actually non-tap opens a lot of diversity


Yes the possibilities with non-tap are endless. Eth Vamp Gaze + Eth templars is one of my favorites :D I think I'll make a non-tap guide that focuses on Style!
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