wait what do you mean enchant doesn't work with deadly strike?
we already never use enchant for the fire damage, just for the Attack rating. most of the mobs there are fire immune anyway.

So deadly strike does not multiply the fire damage from enchant. with my lvl 54 enchant the damage is pretty significant, usually 1 pumping all the non uniques. If Deadly Strike worked with Enchant, I would for sure be using Ariocs.

But the non-uniques get 1-tapped anyway with BOTD, no?
Worst case you can just park 2 Paladins + decked out aura mecs on a TP somewhere if you're multiboxing it. Can do 8players with eyes closed using proper setup, covering basically all Auras.

Just wanna be 100% sure, because last I remembered, the minions for Ismail Vilehand & Toorc Icefist were also Fire Immune.
I know the level 54-55 enchant will take your chance to hit on Stone Skin from 72~% to about 86%, which is a big deal.
Level 23 Enchant takes it from 72% to 81%.

There's also the option to use level 26 Battle Cry which, while it doesn't triple the damage, can 100% nullify the Stone Skin on the Super Uniques. It should be lower damage than Amp every time, but it's at least useful when you missed a Stone Skin with Amp Dmg.

You can also mess around with this dumb "parking" setup from a TP behind the council area if you want to P8 it, for whatever reason:

Your Barb's Merc uses Guardian Angel with a Lem Rune, Crown of Thieves with a Lem Rune, Arioc's with a 15/40. This pushes Merc resists to 90% maximum & gives 200% Goldfind.

Nearby Paladin w/ A2 Merc (Blessed Aim) wielding Pride (Concentration). Paladin uses Fanaticism, wears Exile (Defiance) shield off-hand & Demon Limb (Enchant) main hand.
Nearby Paladin w/ A2 Merc (Prayer), wielding Infinity (Conviction). Paladin uses Salvation (level 33 to keep 90% resists even with Council activating Conviction).

Technically you can push this further by adding Dragon/Hand of Justice/Dreams to the mix for Holy Shock/Holy Fire, but it's completely unnecessary.

This post was edited by Exokek on Nov 16 2021 05:07am

call me a moron, but I will go with eth reaper.

It shatter corpses? yeah

Is it 19203821039 more confortable then double switching MH and the way cheaper oppah merc set up around? yes

Standard set up for baby

Demon limb / eth spirit on switch (2 all skill, fcr tele breakpoints is worth the str req, especially if you use demon limb as buffer)

Merc

Eth reaper shael
Hades with 2x ias jewel 1x whatever
gui with cham

you hit 45ias breakpoint, guilli beauties, cannot be frozen and all of that considering random trash plain 15 ias jewels etc. Depending on merc level you can go for a fire res slot over @ jewel


I'm heavily biased towards reaper since I got one on my p7 bliz soso, but I honestly think that given marked price make no sense to use anything else compared to a reaper toll BEFORE you can comfortably go for forti/coh hrs and most people that make a gf baba either love trav grind or are low budget

my 2c

This post was edited by Banjoco on Nov 16 2021 08:18am

I mean that's still straight up worse than eBOTD or Arioc's either way, even with a Demon Limb swap?

did u read my post about hrs or u are trolling sir? I think that you heavily over value arioc DPS over effective reaper dps at both 45 and 70 breakpoints, but that's mainly me (plus no need to swap)


Btw I played 4 pro tours of mtg back in the day (when extended was till a thing, go figure), sad to see what shiet casual game has become in the last decade, trying to copy HS shit storm casual model and milking player 24/7 it smthing so bad that I wouldn't believe even hasbro would have done, ever.

GL for your future content, subbed for /respect

This post was edited by Banjoco on Nov 16 2021 08:27am

I mean Demon Limb instead of Gavel is still about 2x less DPS.

But even assuming a perf Eth Reaper's with 15/40 + Cham'd GFace + 30IAS/80ED Hades at 5 attacks per second, you're dealing less than half the damage of an Amn Arioc's + GFace + Hades with 45IAS using a Gavel swap. You can just run Amn Arioc's over reaper & keep Hades/GFace if you really don't want to use Tal's/Duriel's for the survivability.

The same damage scaling occurs if you use non-Eth weapons, with Arioc's/Gavel coming out ahead by about 100%.
I can't see myself taking a 100% DPS loss just because I don't want to at least use Gavel on the swap.

In the right setup, even going budget, GFace is completely unnecessary and overkill, since CB just doesn't matter at all vs. non-bosses.



I refuse to talk about WotC anymore What a shit show.

This post was edited by Exokek on Nov 16 2021 08:58am

"But even assuming a perf Eth Reaper's with 15/40 + Cham'd GFace + 30IAS/80ED Hades at 5 attacks per second, you're dealing less than half the damage of an Amn Arioc's + GFace + Hades with 45IAS using a Gavel swap"

Point is, in pvm even if u have the APM of a top 5 human in wc3 you lose so much time swapping a 2x buffer for a 1 section map that your video was kinda painfull to watch IMO. Gavel would be sweet but it comes with THREE charges pal.

Also, a reaper gui helm merc at p1 kill trav so fast it probably does out APM you horking corpses / looting, wich is a REAL consideration for in game play and a MAJOR point has not been discussed especially in MF hybrid builds (merc DPS vs human APM at p1)

Imo a "real" set up would be

2x4 free space for loot. Cube for small random stuff to keep (craft mats mainly) leftover chammy 1x tome of identify

Belt 4x mana/heal/poison counter / tp charges

And go town 1 each 4 maps on avarage / gold cap, with as close as MS cap as possible to avoid loading screens (walk from a3 if you don't repair) and just go a4 when u need to repair.

I would like to see a stream of yours grinding trav for a couple of hours with 1 switch/run 1rep/run couz I don't think it's worth it for real play in d2r, ESPECIALLY if you can afford a GG merc set up (ebotd/hr armor/ whatever helm).

And as last point, IMO if you can afford a HR rune set up all you really want is a GF baba with as high level as possible for circles gambling anyway. This might depends on how much the season is pushed in but overall MF lose value everyday compared to circle gambling (ali baba vs 12 lem set up etc) and is FASTER when u got a GG merc since u just take gold/reset.

This post was edited by Banjoco on Nov 16 2021 09:21am

I've done it non-stop for 6-8 hours on Twitch somewhat recently; the runs take 45-55~ seconds all repairs/stashing included. And that's with picking up Rare Boots, Gloves, Pelts, etc, to make gamble packs.
I don't know. Guess the whole swapping/tele routine becomes muscle memory at some point, kinda like anything you repeat often enough.