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Jun 12 2021 08:33am
Quote (cantero @ Jun 11 2021 10:30pm)
Tested with death cs and didn't work or it was a very small change. I would say it's nearly useless :(


even a fastest Feral Rage speed for single hand CS Death a wolf barb can reach is 11F, if this glitch works at most 9~10 F I would say, the try is definitely pointless.
and how did you use a eth CS death for str glitch? the lowest 8 str on wolfhowl + 129 require str = 137 which is > eth CS Death 136 require, plus +1~9 rare jewels on the other hand.
or u mean CB
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Jun 12 2021 08:37am
Quote (Ironboar @ 12 Jun 2021 16:33)
even a fastest Feral Rage speed for single hand CS Death a wolf barb can reach is 11F, if this glitch works at most 9~10 F I would say, the try is definitely pointless.
and how did you use a eth CS death for str glitch? the lowest 8 str on wolfhowl + 129 require str = 137 which is > eth CS Death 136 require, plus +1~9 rare jewels on the other hand.
or u mean CB


My str bug wolfhowl is 40ed -15 req needs 110str, adds 10 str. That's 120str. Death CS needs 136 so no problem.
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Jun 12 2021 08:37am
I only finished 30% of the test, and the ias% on the main wp really matter so I was wrong to include "LW PB" at the beginning.

use dex glitch, dual PB, real dmg speed is:
0ias PB < 20ias PB < 30ias PB < 40ias PB,
today will testing 35ias, 60ias, 75ias, 80ias, 100ias,

then use normal build to do them again (no glitch),

This post was edited by Ironboar on Jun 12 2021 08:45am
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Jun 12 2021 08:39am
Quote (cantero @ Jun 12 2021 07:37am)
My str bug wolfhowl is 40ed -15 req needs 110str, adds 10 str. That's 120str. Death CS needs 136 so no problem.


ok it's still not worth our time to try other RW u know what i mean, I tried Death several times previously just for proving str glitch,
Death's min dmg is too low, even a CB Grief is better than them.

This post was edited by Ironboar on Jun 12 2021 08:40am
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Quote (Ironboar @ 12 Jun 2021 16:39)
ok it's still not worth our time to try other RW u know what i mean, I tried Death several times previously just for proving str glitch, Death's min dmg is too low, even a CB Grief is better than them.


If it was fast it would be a nice weapon. High dmg, CB, DS, mana leech and freezes enemies.
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Jun 13 2021 02:46am
Quote (Ironboar @ Jun 12 2021 10:39pm)
ok it's still not worth our time to try other RW u know what i mean, I tried Death several times previously just for proving str glitch,
Death's min dmg is too low, even a CB Grief is better than them.



What weapons work?
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Jun 13 2021 02:49pm
Hey, this post piqued my interest quite a bit so I went ahead and did a few independent studies for my own sake. I figured I'd post the results here:

NOTE: All tests were done under the following conditions:

- 200 strength
- 136 dexterity (either after glitch, or given by an amulet in cases that are not glitched)
- The "Wolfhowl" used was a modified version to have Requirements -100% and no +stre or +dex
- The Barbarian used to attack was level 99 with MASSIVE AR bonuses
- Level 6 Feral Rage
- Level 6 Wolf

- The Phase Blades (pb) and Beserker Axes (BA) used to attack (glove-side) ALL had:
- 99 to 100 damage
- Their IAS and Requirements varied

- The Phase Blade used to glitch (boot-side) had the following stats:
- 31 to 35 damage
- 100 to strength
- 9 to dexterity
- Requirements -100%

- The numbers below represent Time to Kill (in seconds) against a level 9 barbarian with 0 defense and 20,000 life (these values include a ~1 second reaction time from me clicking the watch)
- As a control, I tested the boot-side pb's TTK and it was far longer than anything here, even with 100% ias. As such, I did not include its results.

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WolfBarb
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Glove-side | Boot-side
0% ias N/A
The pb was NOT glitched for this test
53
55
54
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Glove-side | Boot-side
100% ias N/A
The pb was NOT glitched for this test
28
26
28
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Glove-side | Boot-side
0% ias 100% ias
The pb was glitched for this test
45
44
45
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Glove-side | Boot-side
40% ias 100% ias
The pb was glitched for this test
25
24
28
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Glove-side | Boot-side
75% ias 100% ias
The pb was glitched for this test
28
28
26
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Glove-side | Boot-side
40% ias 100% ias
The BA was glitched for this test
48
48
49
========================================
Conclusion:
The glitched pb DOES in fact reach 3 fpa with a certain ias. I do not know what the exact ias is at this point but based on my testing, the breakpoint is AT LEAST 40% ias glove-side. This was a very small test just for proof of concept.

A few final notes:
The glitch does work with any combination of weapons but to a lesser degree. Phase blade on boot-side is highly beneficial. I tired other weapons on boot-side and they do not work to the same degree. I plan to test legendary mallets and other high damage weapons in the near future as I both love dumb melee builds and ss chars.
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Jun 13 2021 11:37pm
Quote (cmo39 @ 13 Jun 2021 22:49)

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Glove-side | Boot-side
0% ias 100% ias
The pb was glitched for this test
45
44
45
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Glove-side | Boot-side
40% ias 100% ias
The pb was glitched for this test
25
24
28


There is a lot of difference between that first (could be a last wish pb) and the second (grief pb 40ias). It really shines with a grief pb.
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Jun 14 2021 05:36am
Quote (cantero @ Jun 14 2021 01:37am)
There is a lot of difference between that first (could be a last wish pb) and the second (grief pb 40ias). It really shines with a grief pb.



For sure, yes. Like I said, this was just a proof of concept test. I was planning on using grief pb so I wanted to hit that 40% ias mark. Then, out of curiosity I tried the 0% wias pb. It's really interesting that the glove-side weapon wias even has any effect at all since we're bugging it.

If anyone has more info on what's going on I'd love to hear it.
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Jun 14 2021 07:40am
Quote (cmo39 @ Jun 14 2021 04:36am)
For sure, yes. Like I said, this was just a proof of concept test. I was planning on using grief pb so I wanted to hit that 40% ias mark. Then, out of curiosity I tried the 0% wias pb. It's really interesting that the glove-side weapon wias even has any effect at all since we're bugging it.

If anyone has more info on what's going on I'd love to hear it.


excited to see more ppl join to test with me together, I will read ur detail later and compare with my results.

Actually I've done all tests before yesterday (sat afternoon) but was sick during weekend, recover a little bit today, I will try my best to calculate all group's average time and upload mine then discuss with u guys in the noon.

This post was edited by Ironboar on Jun 14 2021 07:41am
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