fortitude is gm man :)

still requesting the screenshot
show ur zva stats. like you was just about to do team duels with full res and all that stuff and we compare it

C'mon Mike,, learn read plx :

don't you see that nobody complains about your dueling skills? all the complaints are about your build which CANNOT BE better than the build jesper showed. the 1fpa is that much of a difference versus almost everey kind of char. your 7fpa build offers way less dmg than the one shown from jesper.

i want to see a picture so we can compare it and evereyone will see that your's is worse.


so can we see a picture now?

not to mention it doesn't matter how many retards the OP can dodge and how many he can dig up who are worse duelers than himself (very few, but he'll find them)
What matters is that one build is plainly better than the other.


Heres an application of a quick thought experiment I use all the time in game design:

Imagine we had two duelers. Identical grief zealots. Every piece of gear exactly the same, every skill, stats, level, etc, all the same. Everything is down to the number identical.
Except for their griefs. One uses a +400 grief, the other uses a +399 grief.

Which of these two duelers is "better"? Clearly, 400 > 399. Yet they could duel each other for 10,000 matches and never see a statistically significant difference.
They would never see any difference at all, but through simple character building you can make one strictly better than the other.



You may not be able to see whats better between a 7 FPA zon and an 8 FPA zon in a single duel.
You may not be able to see it in 5 duels. But you will see it in 10 duels, in 100 duels, in 1000.
And you'd have won more duels with 7 FPA. Any build that gives a pure bowazon 8 FPA without teleport is straight bogus, even with tele it should be 7 FPA

The OP's "guide" is completely wrong and hilariously flawed.

Goomshill 1

i havent read this shit at all but i see ur talking about zvz rules, i kno im eu but i did play use for 2 years and i know these rules well and its like no psn sc, no bo, etc, standard rules and NO FORTI.
yes no forti, thats wat i wanted to tell you eu fags, USE > EU, get good
and of course i totally agree with this rule

.. but actually its true

ps. its interesting how different the EU and USE duelstyle is: USE players dont spamm multis, they play gawhore games from 454554 yards, BUT they still move around and dont camp; EU players can have fury/ga fights inscreen or multiwhoring (u win if u got map advantage - positioning important), or staying in 1 corner offmap from 45445 km and spamming ga and hoping the enemy will be unlucky and will walk through ur line
and yea use players dont really fight inscreen so there are players who dont use jav slot at all, bcos they use 100 CS weapon (=not skilling passive then, i guess) and they switch it after a few gas, walk away, spamm gas, switch for critical
also telezons are more popular in use than in eu

u like or not, its like a habit, u cant change it

This post was edited by hihorob on Apr 30 2011 03:00pm

Why none
Impal ? (skill)

i read this.. think :facepalm:.. then look at who posted it.. think :troll:


This post was edited by tudey on May 8 2011 02:10pm

Amazing guide, been tinkering with zons for a long time and have to say, the man knows his stuff. I wish all guides were as well organized and constructed as this one, excellant guide and much props!