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Jun 14 2010 03:29am
Quote (jrp8234 @ May 13 2010 09:38am)
Yaf, I was just wondering if you're using Highlord's, 160/60 and 120/45?

If this is the case is this just so that you can hit the 8 frame multi bp?

Also how do you deal with phys immunes without atma's?
yeah, keep atma in inv
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Quote (GoAMuffin @ Jun 8 2010 03:23am)
vouch this build as i use it and it is amazing. for the record gores are a faster kill over travs.


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Quote (sorcees @ Jun 14 2010 09:04pm)
In HC, yes, resistances are very important.
If you use Andy and LoH, they make up for the lost of fr, then you can put a 15 IAS / 15@ in your Andy.


I play HC with a zon... I ONLY USE 40ed/15ias jewel in Andys Visage... it is NOT necessary to have 15/15 jewel in that helm.
If you want to help your res, get prismatic ring with other mods beneficial for the zon.
example: 20 str / 10 all res ring (note that some prismatic rings have more res)
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I started building a glass cannon bowazon for pvp but lost interest when I decided that it wasn't worth buying a whole inventory of 3/3/20's and 3/20/20's, so I mostly use her for pvm now. I'll probably ditch my Faith GMB to earn some extra fg and start using the WF instead. I'm going to keep my 120/45/30 diadem though, so I won't need a shael or even a 15 ias jewel to hit the IAS bp. So my question: what is the next best thing to put in the WF socket? I'm thinking maybe an Ohm (50% ED). Any other suggestions?

Edit: nvm

This post was edited by jellolol on Jun 14 2010 07:23am
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Quote (jellolol @ 14 Jun 2010 13:14)
I started building a glass cannon bowazon for pvp but lost interest when I decided that it wasn't worth buying a whole inventory of 3/3/20's and 3/20/20's, so I mostly use her for pvm now. I'll probably ditch my Faith GMB to earn some extra fg and start using the WF instead. I'm going to keep my 120/45/30 diadem though, so I won't need a shael or even a 15 ias jewel to hit the IAS bp. So my question: what is the next best thing to put in the WF socketl? I'm thinking maybe an Ohm (50% ED). Any other suggestions?


40/15 max jewel > ohm

Lets see:

With level 13-15 faith (merc) you need 95% ias to hit 7 fpa.

20 from wf itself
45 from circlet
20 from loh gloves
= 85.

Atma's amulet > everything so you'll need to put 15 ias jewel, or shael to the wf. 40/15 ias jewel being ideal, ofcourse.
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Quote (TheBe @ Jun 14 2010 07:18am)
40/15 max jewel > ohm

Lets see:

With level 13-15 faith (merc) you need 95% ias to hit 7 fpa.

20 from wf itself
45 from circlet
20 from loh gloves
= 85.

Atma's amulet > everything so you'll need to put 15 ias jewel, or shael to the wf. 40/15 ias jewel being ideal, ofcourse.


Ah ok. I was figuring in Nosferatu's coil which puts me at an even 95. The other appeal with Nosferatu's is the life leech since I won't be using Andy's. However, if the concensus is that Razortail >>>> Nosferatu's, I could always get life leech from a rare ring that I have, but that would mean losing out on about ~8 dex and ~140 AR from another ravenfrost.

Also -- I figured a 40/15max would be superior to Ohm, so you've confirmed that for me, but both 40/15ias and 40/15max are still more expensive on ladder than I want to spend on this character for the time being.

So my new question: Ohm+Nosferatu's+2x20/250 Ravens *OR* Shael+Razortail+20/250 Raven+Rare life leech ring?

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Ah ok. I was figuring in Nosferatu's coil which puts me at an even 95. The other appeal with Nosferatu's is the life leech since I won't be using Andy's. However, if the concensus is that Razortail >>>> Nosferatu's, I could always get life leech from a rare ring that I have, but that would mean losing out on about ~8 dex and ~140 AR from another ravenfrost.

Also -- I figured a 40/15max would be superior to Ohm, so you've confirmed that for me, but both 40/15ias and 40/15max are still more expensive on ladder than I want to spend on this character for the time being.

So my new question: Ohm+Nosferatu's+2x20/250 Ravens *OR* Shael+Razortail+20/250 Raven+Rare life leech ring?


Using other than razortail belt is simply retarded. No discussion needed there.

Razortail + shael wf + dual leech ring
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Quote (TheBe @ Jun 14 2010 08:00am)
Using other than razortail belt is simply retarded. No discussion needed there.

Razortail + shael wf + dual leech ring


Good stuff. Thanks for your advice man!
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Jun 14 2010 12:22pm
Quote (GoAMuffin @ 8 Jun 2010 01:23)
vouch this build as i use it and it is amazing. for the record gores are a faster kill over travs.

Quote (Synonym @ 14 Jun 2010 10:35)
lol

Please elaborate on whats so lol here?
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