Quote (darcanegel @ Sun, Apr 20 2008, 08:16pm)
ofc you realize that best smite/aura pvp on ladder doesn't really mean as much as nl =/
Yes, I do realize that
. I could make wild claims that I'm the #1 auradin on east (or even #1 auradin period) but I don't because I haven't dueled against East NL, West, or Europe. So I'll just say that as far as the last year on East ladder, it wasn't even close.
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Quote (SnapShoot @ Sun, Apr 20 2008, 08:27pm)
Definitely vouch Adj
Very Intelligent, know's what he's talkin about. Never needed to hack
gg man
Doesn't need to be cocky and arrogant, because his aurasmiter was the best I've seen//dueled and he knew it
ty John
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Quote (DayandNight @ Thu, May 15 2008, 12:22pm)
what do you think is the best way to obtain DR when facing BvCs, I guess one solution is to switch to DR Smite normal gear and put Auradin gears switch back in stash maybe?
Or Griefz/Dream/Dream/Shaftstop maybe to keep aura/smite/dr in tact against bvcs?
very nice guide btw.
Ty. In order to increase DR there are a few options:
1. Keep your CTA on one switch with the Dream shield and have a Ber'd Stormshield on the other switch with Grief.
2. Same as option #1 but use Ber'd Hoz instead of Stormshield and Verdungos instead of Arach
3. Keep a 31 DR CoA stashed and use this + Verdungos
4. Swap out Enigma for a Ber'd or eth Zod'd Shafstop (or btal if you're on NL) and use Verdungo's
Option 1 cuts your smite damage a bit but keeps your teleport ability. You lose 1/2 your aura damage but that's not really your M.O. vs good BvC's
Option 2 doesn't max DR (only 31%) but you'll boost your smite damage and defense considerably. You can ditch the auras and toss on a CoA or Shako if you want to go pure smite.
Option 3 is probably the easiest but you lose the ability to kill with pulses. Other than that it's a good quick fix that will make it hard for a BvC to kill you
Option 4 is great for 1v1 gm vs physical damage chars but requires you to stat a lot more into Strength to compensate for not having Enigma. It's also a good pub setup with a lot of smiters running around.
Most BvC's aren't that hard if you have a grief zerker and shift+smite. Another option (though generally bm) is to use Grief+Exile on main. Your defense will be in the 25k range and you'll have lifetap.
If the BvC switches to Widow quickly namelock charge but be prepared to stop as soon as he switches back so you can shift+smite again.
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Quote (Fallen_Photos @ Thu, May 15 2008, 03:30pm)
I'm confused as to how you're going to hit max dr for barbs. shift smiting sucks I don't care what anyone says. And if you trade in nigma you lose teleport. You could trade a dream out for a berber coa and slap on a dungos.
You won't be charging a barb anyway so theres no real advantage to having the dreams on anyway.
See above post for DR solutions. CoA is a good stash item but in general your standard setup + Verdungo's (23 DR) is enough to take down most BvC. 15k Defense, 4.5k life, range 3 smite makes it hard for the BvC.
Shift+smiting doesn't suck but I guess it's personal preference. Shift+smiting with a phase blade sucks but that's why I push the zerker so hard.
You won't typically be charging a barb, certainly not while he's WW'ing, but there are opportunities to land a hit that you need to be aware of. Namely, if they get sick of trying to clip you (which they can't do without getting hit by smite because you match their range) and use Widow, you'll have a chance to charge then before they switch back. Also, if they try to stunt leap just outside your smite range you can quickly charge them and resume shift+smiting.
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Quote (Kuronishen @ Thu, May 15 2008, 03:40pm)
Read through the build, overall I'm really impressed.
As was stated before, the only problem with this in PvP is the lack of DR. other than that i like this
Ty. See above for more DR discussion
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Quote (Mizzy @ Mon, May 19 2008, 11:36pm)
pretty cool build. very easy to read. not sure how viable, but i may just test it out
Let me know how it goes
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Quote (LegoGad @ Mon, Jun 2 2008, 06:35pm)
Almost the same build as my auras/smite but i would like to suggest few things:
in weap#1 u should have a pb/ba with 6 sox socketed 6*the best light faccets u can get,
and in weap#2 u should use ur grief ba with a ber'd storm shield, and pre-cast the bo.
and imo u should have a grief pb/hl always ready in stash vs other smiters with holy freeze on, since with that eq ur smite is just too slow
This is an option but I don't recommend it for a few reasons:
1. If you charge someone with the 30/-30 sword on you lose about 3.5k physical damage vs Grief (7k if deadly strike triggers) and only add about 1k lightning damage
2. If you charge someone with Grief + Stormshield on you lose about 1.8k lightning damage vs Dream and don't add any physical damage
3. Precasting is not only a pain in the ass but also bm (and prohibited in almost all legit dueling rules)
4. Switch smiting is bugged in that you can't weapon switch while in the middle of a charge. This means you need time it perfectly after you land the charge to switch weapons and start smiting. Using Grief on main means you just have to hotkey from Charge to Smite which you can do while charging and come out of the charge already smiting.
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Quote (silent9 @ Tue, Jun 3 2008, 12:57am)
gfg.. nice guide..
ima gonna try it out
sound pretty interesting
Thanks, hope it goes well
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Quote (izez @ Tue, Jun 3 2008, 02:27am)
Auradins are bad and even worse if you add it to hybrid build. This particular build has a low DR%, auras(meh they just tickle) and a weak smiter. I dont really see how any decent player with a decent build could be killed by this.
You can tell an ostrich not to stick its head in the sand but it probably won't listen. Thanks for the feedback.