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Nov 19 2007 09:20pm
Quote (Ashcroft @ Mon, Nov 19 2007, 09:43pm)
it might not break.... but what the fuck... u rather run slower+ way less damage for some gold? I'm not seeing the point of the phaseblade... maybe you attack faster.... but do 1/6th the damage? uhh.... ebotdz has 30+ all atts... 30 dex... 30str ... 30vita... but..i still should use a grief pb...


pinseis against the wall and other use little tricks. takes everyone a bit to get it down

jsut cause u got the char built dont mean your a chaos master..... like me devil.gif


and btw

. grief pb > ebotdz all day every day, not even gonna argue it

Quote (dothe @ Mon, Nov 19 2007, 01:22am)
congratz on 99 sam

i may use some of this guide maybe not all  biggrin.gif

i might tweak a few things but overall not bad



thanks man. ya dude, chaos barbs work in many different ways, tweak the char however you prefer it tongue.gif

This post was edited by 312 on Nov 19 2007 09:21pm
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gg guide lol i own cs in 1min with 200 fg char ^^
just eni storm and grief pb = rape looooooooooooooool no inv and still easy lool #1 cs barb simpsen ;D
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Quote (Honestly @ Sun, Nov 4 2007, 03:27pm)
why not use 2x wiz for tele? They give much more mana than spirit and much more res AND more fcr.

2x = gg man.

Unless you use spirit's for bo, which is understandable, but I think 2x wiz would be better just because 150 res (unsocket) and 100 fcr


And you should ber your ss and use a crafted belt /w fhr str res fcr life

you get max dr /w ber ss + enigma, so dungo's is pretty useless.


btw fcr break for baba = 105;) so u still got same break;)
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Quote (jamiebirthday @ Tue, Nov 20 2007, 02:01am)
gg guide lol i own cs in 1min with 200 fg char ^^
just eni storm and grief pb = rape looooooooooooooool no inv and still easy lool #1 cs barb simpsen ;D


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Can someone clearly explain explain why grief pb is better than a ebotdz?

There may be hidden damage on greif.... but seriosuly... 5k hidden damage?
im not sure if ias bps are similar... but 60ias on ebotdz..... 30+ all Attributes
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Quote (Ashcroft @ Wed, Nov 21 2007, 01:35am)
Can someone clearly explain explain why grief pb is better than a ebotdz?

There may be hidden damage on greif.... but seriosuly... 5k hidden damage?
im not sure if ias bps are similar... but 60ias on ebotdz..... 30+ all Attributes


ias bp for botd ba = 125
ias bp for grief pb= 42
trust me grief pb own botd ba ez on cs barb
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Quote (Ashcroft @ Tue, Nov 20 2007, 07:35pm)
Can someone clearly explain explain why grief pb is better than a ebotdz?

There may be hidden damage on greif.... but seriosuly... 5k hidden damage?
im not sure if ias bps are similar... but 60ias on ebotdz..... 30+ all Attributes
No way! I totally have to agree with you on this one. Grief doesn't add 5k hidden. Its more like 10k. ohmy.gif

You see that ~900 damage you said you do with the grief on the little screen a few posts back? That is without the +400 off of grief.
So if 35 off of just the phase blade = 900, then 400 = just shy of 10.3k!. smile.gif

Hurray proportions! banana.gif

Also, grief adds ~130% damage to demons while botd gives 200% to the undead. Looks nice, but vizier is a 1-2 hit KO already, and lord de seis may have more life, but doesn't put up much of a fight. Venom lords have all the health, so the damage vs demons is more beneficial. Also comes in handy vs Diablo and Baal (and waves 1, 3, 4, 5).

This post was edited by Morholt on Nov 20 2007 07:55pm
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Quote (Morholt @ Tue, Nov 20 2007, 08:54pm)
No way! I totally have to agree with you on this one. Grief doesn't add 5k hidden.  Its more like 10k. ohmy.gif

You see that ~900 damage you said you do with the grief on the little screen a few posts back?  That is without the +400 off of grief.
So if 35 off of just the phase blade = 900, then 400 = just shy of 10.3k!. smile.gif

Hurray proportions!  banana.gif

Also, grief adds ~130% damage to demons while botd gives 200% to the undead.  Looks nice, but vizier is a 1-2 hit KO already, and lord de seis may have more life, but doesn't put up much of a fight.  Venom lords have all the health, so the damage vs demons is more beneficial.  Also comes in handy vs Diablo and Baal (and waves 1, 3, 4, 5).


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