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Nov 18 2022 06:01am
Quote (Exokek @ Nov 18 2022 12:57pm)
I don't like it, but many DPS players do that and it's enough for them.


Why don't you like it?
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Nov 18 2022 06:02am
Quote (babun1024 @ 18 Nov 2022 07:01)
Why don't you like it?


Because I can run a 2300GF main set with a Merc killing shit instead of WWing my ass away in the same time span.
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Nov 18 2022 06:44am
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Are 900% gf are good enough for the primary slow on a gf barb?
And 1800% on switch.


I mean even 900 is pretty low for dual grief ww, should be hitting closer to 1300 + while dpsing. I've done about 18.5 minutes to cap 10M gold, but never manage to get it faster than a zerk build, even though my spreadsheet calc says it should be possible.

There's also a build that uses griefz + eth rune master offhand. You socket some disgusting 30ed/40ed dtd/30gf jewels or something along with some 15ias/ed to hit bps. Never tried that one though, seems like way too much hassle.
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Nov 18 2022 06:49am
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I mean even 900 is pretty low for dual grief ww, should be hitting closer to 1300 + while dpsing. I've done about 18.5 minutes to cap 10M gold, but never manage to get it faster than a zerk build, even though my spreadsheet calc says it should be possible.

There's also a build that uses griefz + eth rune master offhand. You socket some disgusting 30ed/40ed dtd/30gf jewels or something along with some 15ias/ed to hit bps. Never tried that one though, seems like way too much hassle.

I meant 900gf from equip alone, not inventory.
Quote (daanno2 @ Nov 18 2022 01:44pm)
I mean even 900 is pretty low for dual grief ww, should be hitting closer to 1300 + while dpsing. I've done about 18.5 minutes to cap 10M gold, but never manage to get it faster than a zerk build, even though my spreadsheet calc says it should be possible.

There's also a build that uses griefz + eth rune master offhand. You socket some disgusting 30ed/40ed dtd/30gf jewels or something along with some 15ias/ed to hit bps. Never tried that one though, seems like way too much hassle.

Too slow kill speed. The run should be prolonged by identifying anything useful, not by killing slower.


This post was edited by babun1024 on Nov 18 2022 06:50am
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Quote (babun1024 @ 18 Nov 2022 07:49)
I meant 900gf from equip alone, not inventory.

Too slow kill speed. The run should be prolonged by identifying anything useful, not by killing slower.


Literally no one ever mentions their inventory gold% in isolation. Not sure why you did
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Quote (Exokek @ Nov 18 2022 02:53pm)
Literally no one ever mentions their inventory gold% in isolation. Not sure why you did

Inventory is an ever improving variable with time. Gettig equip up to date is way easier.

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Quote (babun1024 @ Nov 18 2022 07:49am)
I meant 900gf from equip alone, not inventory.

Too slow kill speed. The run should be prolonged by identifying anything useful, not by killing slower.


Are you counting your gheeds though? cuz 900 without any inventory sounds pretty optimized. A cookie cutter build below already has hard time hitting 900:

wealth 300
chancies 200
1x dwarf 100
dual leech/gf ring - 30-40
goldwrap 80
infernostrides 70
lem/cham ik 87
ammy- ??

Having said that, with 2x grief it takes like 10s to kill council on p1. Not sure why you would sacrifice inv to kill mayyybe 1.5s faster, when the entire run is like 40-55s. It's like doing the run 3% faster but with 30% less gf.
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Quote (daanno2 @ Nov 18 2022 03:07pm)
Are you counting your gheeds though? cuz 900 without any inventory sounds pretty optimized. A cookie cutter build below already has hard time hitting 900:

wealth 300
chancies 200
1x dwarf 100
dual leech/gf ring - 30-40
goldwrap 80
infernostrides 70
lem/cham ik 87
ammy- ??

Having said that, with 2x grief it takes like 10s to kill council on p1. Not sure why you would sacrifice inv to kill mayyybe 1.5s faster, when the entire run is like 40-55s. It's like doing the run 3% faster but with 30% less gf.


No, nothing from inventory.. Who said I am going to use inventory to support kill speed? :D

This post was edited by babun1024 on Nov 18 2022 08:10am
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Quote (babun1024 @ Nov 18 2022 09:09am)
No, nothing from inventory.. Who said I am going to use inventory to support kill speed? :D


i mean, why being so evasive lol. you're coming for a discussion but leaving out a lot of info.
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Nov 18 2022 08:17am
Quote (daanno2 @ 18 Nov 2022 09:07)
Are you counting your gheeds though? cuz 900 without any inventory sounds pretty optimized. A cookie cutter build below already has hard time hitting 900:

wealth 300
chancies 200
1x dwarf 100
dual leech/gf ring - 30-40
goldwrap 80
infernostrides 70
lem/cham ik 87
ammy- ??

Having said that, with 2x grief it takes like 10s to kill council on p1. Not sure why you would sacrifice inv to kill mayyybe 1.5s faster, when the entire run is like 40-55s. It's like doing the run 3% faster but with 30% less gf.


tbh the only case I've seen for WW over Zerk is if you want to leech every hit. Or comfort I guess, but it's just not needed.
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