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omg this topic made me laugh so hard I almost fell of my chair smile.gif

schlüpfer you rock I heart.gif your ts sork it will run europe one day when you get your 20 life scs!


I especially love this post:

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lol its shit based off what? o yea nothing i forgot

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ok so I had my lunch now smile.gif

so you get how much damage with prebuff gear like 6-7k?

ok let's say you get that so after pvp penalty = 1k damage, after 85 resist (which is gm everywhere especially in pubs where you gonna duel with this) it gets 150 damage per hit.

So thunder storm hits like every 1-2 seconds? (I'll take 1 second for my further calculations just to be on the safe side)

So 150 damage every second in 10 seconds that's 1500 damage.

That seems good to kill a mfer but how bout a bvc? They got like 7-8k life so you'd need ~ 53 seconds to kill him (wow I came to a very big exaggeration on this point since in reality you'd need more than 5 mins to kill him anyway)

And durin' that 53 secs you'd always need to stay within range from him, since TStorm doesn't hit 5 screens far. Any decent bvc will have Leap skilled and you gonna tell me that you gonna get out of leap lock with that frames you got? and don't forget, barbs got same frames than you do for fcr meaning with 63 they're easily able to catch up with you not to mention they can get 105 fcr since they don't need AR or huge damage with your 350 life. (gloves, rings, belt, amu all 20 griff 25 = 105)

Next character class amazon - bowazon. I bet a good bowazon can kill you with multi arrow, it doesn't even have to be guided arrow. Java is probably easier but if she farcasts you die in 1 single hit.

With 63%FCR you can't even escape a charging pala andwith the fhr you have without spirit shield you certainly won't get out of charge lock...

Wind druids have summons so that means auto loss you say, same goes for any kind of nec cause bone walls/prisons should attract your TS, same goes for golem.

so now we got all down except assassins and sorceress - any decent assa will have to namelock you only 1 and you should die due to the 48 fhr frame. Good es sorcs with like 1.5/4.5k life mana ratio take quite some damage from good trapsins and you with 350 life won't do better than them. Ghosts are ES sorc's worst enemies. And another sorc with high es (or vita) should be able to kill you with 1-2 hits.
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Quote (roky8 @ Mon, May 7 2007, 04:06pm)
ok so I had my lunch now smile.gif

so you get how much damage with prebuff gear like 6-7k?

ok let's say you get that so after pvp penalty = 1k damage, after 85 resist (which is gm everywhere especially in pubs where you gonna duel with this) it gets 150 damage per hit.

So thunder storm hits like every 1-2 seconds? (I'll take 1 second for my further calculations just to be on the safe side)

So 150 damage every second in 10 seconds that's 1500 damage.

That seems good to kill a mfer but how bout a bvc? They got like 7-8k life so you'd need ~ 53 seconds to kill him (wow I came to a very big exaggeration on this point since in reality you'd need more than 5 mins to kill him anyway)

And durin' that 53 secs you'd always need to stay within range from him, since TStorm doesn't hit 5 screens far. Any decent bvc will have Leap skilled and you gonna tell me that you gonna get out of leap lock with that frames you got? and don't forget, barbs got same frames than you do for fcr meaning with 63 they're easily able to catch up with you not to mention they can get 105 fcr since they don't need AR or huge damage with your 350 life. (gloves, rings, belt, amu all 20 griff 25 = 105)

Next character class amazon - bowazon. I bet a good bowazon can kill you with multi arrow, it doesn't even have to be guided arrow. Java is probably easier but if she farcasts you die in 1 single hit.

With 63%FCR you can't even escape a charging pala andwith the fhr you have without spirit shield you certainly won't get out of charge lock...

Wind druids have summons so that means auto loss you say, same goes for any kind of nec cause bone walls/prisons should attract your TS, same goes for golem.

so now we got all down except assassins and sorceress - any decent assa will have to namelock you only 1 and you should die due to the 48 fhr frame. Good es sorcs with like 1.5/4.5k life mana ratio take quite some damage from good trapsins and you with 350 life won't do better than them. Ghosts are ES sorc's worst enemies. And another sorc with high es (or vita) should be able to kill you with 1-2 hits.


that 20 absorb also takes 40 dmg off

it's no use trying to explain it to him, can't u see how that sorc ownd pseudonym?

This post was edited by needagun on May 7 2007 02:06pm
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May 7 2007 02:49pm
the guide made me laugh...

iso less garbage plz
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May 7 2007 03:02pm
i was actually gonna try this, but with an insight merc =) and maybe orb hybrid, just tape down teleport, and youre good to go =)
(its harder to stack vs 2 resists and cold mastery subtracts res a lot wink.gif)
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Quote (roky8 @ Mon, May 7 2007, 04:06pm)
ok so I had my lunch now smile.gif

so you get how much damage with prebuff gear like 6-7k?

ok let's say you get that so after pvp penalty = 1k damage, after 85 resist (which is gm everywhere especially in pubs where you gonna duel with this) it gets 150 damage per hit.

So thunder storm hits like every 1-2 seconds? (I'll take 1 second for my further calculations just to be on the safe side)

So 150 damage every second in 10 seconds that's 1500 damage.

That seems good to kill a mfer but how bout a bvc? They got like 7-8k life so you'd need ~ 53 seconds to kill him (wow I came to a very big exaggeration on this point since in reality you'd need more than 5 mins to kill him anyway)

And durin' that 53 secs you'd always need to stay within range from him, since TStorm doesn't hit 5 screens far. Any decent bvc will have Leap skilled and you gonna tell me that you gonna get out of leap lock with that frames you got? and don't forget, barbs got same frames than you do for fcr meaning with 63 they're easily able to catch up with you not to mention they can get 105 fcr since they don't need AR or huge damage with your 350 life. (gloves, rings, belt, amu all 20 griff 25 = 105)

Next character class amazon - bowazon. I bet a good bowazon can kill you with multi arrow, it doesn't even have to be guided arrow. Java is probably easier but if she farcasts you die in 1 single hit.

With 63%FCR you can't even escape a charging pala andwith the fhr you have without spirit shield you certainly won't get out of charge lock...

Wind druids have summons so that means auto loss you say, same goes for any kind of nec cause bone walls/prisons should attract your TS, same goes for golem.

so now we got all down except assassins and sorceress - any decent assa will have to namelock you only 1 and you should die due to the 48 fhr frame. Good es sorcs with like 1.5/4.5k life mana ratio take quite some damage from good trapsins and you with 350 life won't do better than them. Ghosts are ES sorc's worst enemies. And another sorc with high es (or vita) should be able to kill you with 1-2 hits.


wait.. 6-7k with infinity on is very similar to a fohers dmg, exept fohers cant tele near as fast as a sorc, and they dont have a sexi es. smile.gif, this sorc probably isnt quite as strong as a foher, but imo it would be just as good sleep.gif
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Quote (roky8 @ Mon, May 7 2007, 04:06pm)
ok so I had my lunch now smile.gif

so you get how much damage with prebuff gear like 6-7k?

ok let's say you get that so after pvp penalty = 1k damage, after 85 resist (which is gm everywhere especially in pubs where you gonna duel with this) it gets 150 damage per hit.

So thunder storm hits like every 1-2 seconds? (I'll take 1 second for my further calculations just to be on the safe side)

So 150 damage every second in 10 seconds that's 1500 damage.

That seems good to kill a mfer but how bout a bvc? They got like 7-8k life so you'd need ~ 53 seconds to kill him (wow I came to a very big exaggeration on this point since in reality you'd need more than 5 mins to kill him anyway)

And durin' that 53 secs you'd always need to stay within range from him, since TStorm doesn't hit 5 screens far. Any decent bvc will have Leap skilled and you gonna tell me that you gonna get out of leap lock with that frames you got? and don't forget, barbs got same frames than you do for fcr meaning with 63 they're easily able to catch up with you not to mention they can get 105 fcr since they don't need AR or huge damage with your 350 life. (gloves, rings, belt, amu all 20 griff 25 = 105)

Next character class amazon - bowazon. I bet a good bowazon can kill you with multi arrow, it doesn't even have to be guided arrow. Java is probably easier but if she farcasts you die in 1 single hit.

With 63%FCR you can't even escape a charging pala andwith the fhr you have without spirit shield you certainly won't get out of charge lock...

Wind druids have summons so that means auto loss you say, same goes for any kind of nec cause bone walls/prisons should attract your TS, same goes for golem.

so now we got all down except assassins and sorceress - any decent assa will have to namelock you only 1 and you should die due to the 48 fhr frame. Good es sorcs with like 1.5/4.5k life mana ratio take quite some damage from good trapsins and you with 350 life won't do better than them. Ghosts are ES sorc's worst enemies. And another sorc with high es (or vita) should be able to kill you with 1-2 hits.


wait.. 6-7k with infinity on is very similar to a fohers dmg, exept fohers cant tele near as fast as a sorc, and they dont have a sexi es. smile.gif, this sorc probably isnt quite as strong as a foher, but imo it would be just as good sleep.gif


foher is alot stronger than that shit

This post was edited by Moonlike on May 7 2007 03:27pm
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Update:

after 2v2ing with jewslicer against splattt and someone else i forget


splattt was a fb sorc i believe and other was cold sorc

when splattt did hit me with fb's I was able to tank about 3-4 of them, for all u shits that say 1 fireball will kill me

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Update:

after 2v2ing with jewslicer against splattt and someone else i forget


splattt was a fb sorc i believe and other was cold sorc

when splattt did hit me with fb's I was able to tank about 3-4 of them, for all u shits that say 1 fireball will kill me

pm him if you dont believe me plz


Your using light as a second hand skill??

If not... I would not mind tanking her... no more than 3 seconds, not enough time to die

But I agree... it can work as a kind of foher biggrin.gif


This post was edited by TheUndyingGod on May 7 2007 05:13pm
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