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Quote (SelesnyaMtG @ Mon, Jul 17 2006, 01:35am)
hi
i wanna use ur build but i would like 2 know how much ias does the grief need 2 get a cap in case a cap would be missed with low ias on grief
i decided 2 go with harle ( in case this on point into fana rly matters )
already thx 4 answers
btw best guide ever, just perf


hi there.
35+ ias and you reach max cap with grief pb if i remember it correctly.
Ty smile.gif

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hi i got a few questions again

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Use wizzy + kiras + resi boots for this fight and you will virtually take no dmg from all sorcs except fire sorc


wouldnt it be possible to use 1 Bk ( or is there no real answer possible since this depends on the fcr rings life? ) instead of 1 fcr ring than, since the cap would still be reached? ( and would you use dwarfs when your allowed to use abs? )

2.
Does the Spirit need to have 35 Fcr ( i know that the fcr of amu has to be 45 Fcr together with base equip, but is there any oppspecific equip set up in which the Spirit needs to be 35 Fcr? )

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Why dont you use hotspurs against FbSorcs , do they have any other use than pushing Fr against fb sosos? ( or do u count them as abs? )

Thx already : )
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i like it alot^^, stratagies r very detailed. gd job^^
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hi i got a few questions again

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Use wizzy + kiras + resi boots for this fight and you will virtually take no dmg from all sorcs except fire sorc


wouldnt it be possible to use 1 Bk ( or is there no real answer possible since this depends on the fcr rings life? ) instead of 1 fcr ring than, since the cap would still be reached? ( and would you use dwarfs when your allowed to use abs? )

2.
Does the Spirit need to have 35 Fcr ( i know that the fcr of amu has to be 45 Fcr together with base equip, but is there any oppspecific equip set up in which the Spirit needs to be 35 Fcr? )

3.
Why dont you use hotspurs against FbSorcs , do they have any other use than pushing Fr against fb sosos? ( or do u count them as abs? )

Thx already : )


1) you can use 1 bk when using wizzy and still have 125 fc. Żou get more dmg with it, (a good fc ring gives life/mana and resist though) but if you have gosu items, you want to play with hoto most of the time and therefore you need 2 fc rings to reach the cap.

2) the spirit dosen't need to be 35 fc unless you have an amu that are over 10 fc

3) some ppl count them as abs. I don't use hotspur vs fire sorcs since it will be too easy (taking 30+fbs)
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but if you have gosu items, you want to play with hoto most of the time and therefore you need 2 fc rings to reach the cap


My question was just for PalaVsSorc ( where wizzy is better so 1 fcr may go into stash) and i wanted 2 know wether the little less life ( with bo ofc ) and the +1 skills from bk is a better option than fcr ring with 40 life and 30 mana ( the res is wayne since you can just take fcr ring which gives resi of an element ur opp doesnt use ) and when abs are allowed the 2nd ring is always = raven / dwarf / whisp or?

2) okay

3) hmm why are they in ur stash than?^^
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got another question smile.gif
isnt sacred rondache > targe 4 exil
rondache has 1 more dmg as sacred targe when counting min and max together and only 2% less blockchance ( and little more maxdefense ) but since you use Raven anyway while being a smiter you also get those 2% to mb again with ravens dex boost
I see atm nothing which makes targe superior to rondache
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but if you have gosu items, you want to play with hoto most of the time and therefore you need 2 fc rings to reach the cap


My question was just for PalaVsSorc ( where wizzy is better so 1 fcr may go into stash) and i wanted 2 know wether the little less life ( with bo ofc ) and the +1 skills from bk is a better option than fcr ring with 40 life and 30 mana ( the res is wayne since you can just take fcr ring which gives resi of an element ur opp doesnt use ) and when abs are allowed the 2nd ring is always = raven / dwarf / whisp or?

2) okay

3) hmm why are they in ur stash than?^^


1) I would prefer the fc ring or raven/whisp etc( if allowed) instead of bk ring. It's a personal choice but bk work aswell. The only resist you will need on your fc rings are CR or LR, but in most cases only blizz sorcs pose a threath.

3) I have them in stash vs lamers, or ppl that play 6on1 etc.

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Quote (SelesnyaMtG @ Tue, Jul 18 2006, 01:26am)
got another question smile.gif
isnt sacred rondache > targe 4 exil
rondache has 1 more dmg as sacred targe when counting min and max together and only 2% less blockchance ( and little more maxdefense ) but since you use Raven anyway while being a smiter you also get those 2% to mb again with ravens dex boost
I see atm nothing which makes targe superior to rondache
thx 4 answer smile.gif


If you think about the build, you would want the best items for a hammer, and that includes sacred targe. At 90-95% of the time you will play as hammer and the sacred rondache is only useful in smite vs smite compared to targe and vs smiters you don't need smite gear (You can't win vs a pure smiter in smite vs smite if he has a nice smite gear) since you own any smiter with ease as a hammer. Now i wouldn't want to lose any dex points in using sacred rondache in my build but the shields are almost the same and both are the best for this build. Also you will notice that you will only use smite gear vs ES 95% sors and eventually bowas if needed where the 1 dmg more in rondache is irrelevant compared to having perf build w targe. But if you rather prefer rondache then go with it. You can ofc kill of just about any char with the smite gear, but if you have mastered the hammer you won't need to.

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i think u missunderstood me
i just want the rondache for exil (spirit is in targe ofc ) my thought was "i will take off the fcrrings anyway when i go with the charge/smite plan and use ravens instead for AR", since the ravens give more dex as the fcr rings do u get maxblock again ( so the only thing which makes targe > rondache normally is gone )
regards ^^

Edit: Btw Thx 4 answering all those questions smile.gif

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i think u missunderstood me
i just want the rondache for exil (spirit is in targe ofc ) my thought was "i will take off the fcrrings anyway when i go with the charge/smite plan and use ravens instead for AR", since the ravens give more dex as the fcr rings do u get maxblock again ( so the only thing which makes targe > rondache normally is gone )
regards ^^

Edit: Btw Thx 4 answering all those questions smile.gif


alright I see your point. Y sure you can do that if you want.
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