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Jan 27 2010 11:07pm
Quote (dark-soul @ 27 Jan 2010 23:40)
I don't really have any experience in dueling that setup since there are no zbugged forts on east like on west. But it gets what like 50k def or something? Go with angelics/ias gloves imo. You lose 100% ed than your current setup but gain a lot more ar so you would end up doing more dmg since more hits = more dmg anyway :) .


Agree :)
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Jan 28 2010 01:28am
Quote (dark-soul @ Jan 28 2010 12:40am)
I don't really have any experience in dueling that setup since there are no zbugged forts on east like on west. But it gets what like 50k def or something? Go with angelics/ias gloves imo. You lose 100% ed than your current setup but gain a lot more ar so you would end up doing more dmg since more hits = more dmg anyway :) .


west is BM to use exile.
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Jan 28 2010 01:46am
Quote (dark-soul @ Jan 27 2010 08:40pm)
I don't really have any experience in dueling that setup since there are no zbugged forts on east like on west. But it gets what like 50k def or something? Go with angelics/ias gloves imo. You lose 100% ed than your current setup but gain a lot more ar so you would end up doing more dmg since more hits = more dmg anyway :) .


30k~40k, depending on rest of gear and whether or not armor procs.

The only thing I'm concerned about is when edeathz takes more than 3 hits to kill someone, because at that rate, edc might be better.

Quote (Shodokan @ Jan 27 2010 11:28pm)
west is BM to use exile.


we know..
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Jan 28 2010 01:50am
Quote (sylvannos @ Jan 28 2010 02:46am)
30k~40k, depending on rest of gear and whether or not armor procs.

The only thing I'm concerned about is when edeathz takes more than 3 hits to kill someone, because at that rate, edc might be better.



we know..


3 hits with highlords on?

Quote (Shodokan @ Jan 28 2010 02:28am)
west is BM to use exile.


Lol uh I know?

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Quote (dark-soul @ Jan 27 2010 11:50pm)
3 hits with highlords on?



Lol uh I know?


3 hits w/ highlord's when they're bo'd.

It's like 2 hits when they're not lol..
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Jan 28 2010 01:57am
Quote (sylvannos @ Jan 28 2010 02:53am)
3 hits w/ highlord's when they're bo'd. 

It's like 2 hits when they're not lol..


I wouldn't think it would take more than 3 hits to take someone out unless you have a lot of bad luck with ds. Bust out the tmight and go etmight/ss angelics/edc and slam zbug fort? :)
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Jan 28 2010 02:15am
Quote (dark-soul @ Jan 27 2010 11:57pm)
I wouldn't think it would take more than 3 hits to take someone out unless you have a lot of bad luck with ds. Bust out the tmight and go etmight/ss angelics/edc and slam zbug fort? :)


it's not the fort that's the problem, i dont think, it's the choice of weapon.

edeathz is easy to beat if you just slap on prudence (50k defense build etc.)

However, if they swap out the edeathz for edc and use that, i haven't found a way around it, except by doing the same and hoping my level + charms + luck carry me through (which is a problem lol)

Might try a templar's might.
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Jan 28 2010 02:18am
Quote (sylvannos @ Jan 28 2010 03:15am)
it's not the fort that's the problem, i dont think, it's the choice of weapon.

edeathz is easy to beat if you just slap on prudence (50k defense build etc.)

However, if they swap out the edeathz for edc and use that, i haven't found a way around it, except by doing the same and hoping my level + charms + luck carry me through (which is a problem lol)

Might try a templar's might.


Yeah I was mainly talking about fort/edc since that's a pertty hard setup to beat. But you'll get a lot more ar/def with tmight setup so could try that out. You just get more dmg in fort setup.
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Jan 29 2010 04:06am
USeast ladder. My non-tap setup is pretty much spot on now. Can go toe to toe with any melee on east, and have a 50% chance or better of winning. But my exile setup is kind of screwed because I originally planned on using a Eprudence.

I didn't put enough points into Dex to wear two angelic halos with a EDC, unless I use waterwalks, which I dislike over gores. If I use EBOTDZ, then this problem is solved. But I keep hearing about how EDC is > Botd any day, which leaves me feeling inadequate :(. The following pictures are my two options for exile setup with BOTD. Which one do you think will have better luck over Shako/Visionary setup users?



This first setup lets me have 50% DR and high AR. Sometimes I feel tap duels place emphasis on high AR, because the more chance to hit, the more chance tap can happen. Running with 17k AR with Eprudence was very inconsistent for me. I have yet to try this setup in a duel.



This fortitude setup gives me 46% DR. The extra damage I take is not too noticeable. This setup has allowed me to 2-shot people at times, but lower AR than the above setup.


Your input is greatly appreciated!

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USeast ladder.  My non-tap setup is pretty much spot on now.  Can  go toe to toe with any melee on east, and have a 50% chance or better of winning.  But my exile setup is kind of screwed because I originally planned on using a Eprudence.

I didn't put enough points into Dex to wear two angelic halos with a EDC, unless I use waterwalks, which I dislike over gores.  If I use EBOTDZ, then this problem is solved, but I will only have 15% DS from gores.  Plus I keep hearing about how EDC is > botd any day, which makes me sad.  The following pictures are my two options for exile setup.  Which one do you think will have better luck over Shako/Visionary setup users? 



This first setup lets me have 50% DR and high AR.  Sometimes I feel tap duels place emphasis on high AR, because the more chance to hit, the more chance tap can happen.  Running with 17k AR with Eprudence was very inconsistent for me.  I have yet to try this setup yet in a duel.
http://i48.tinypic.com/2evvimx.jpg


This fortitude setup gives me 46% DR.  The extra damage I take is not too noticeable.  This setup has allowed me to 2-shot people at times, but lower AR than the above setup.
http://i46.tinypic.com/2ed4js1.jpg

Your input is greatly appreciated!


I would personally remake to be able to use edc since it's another option. Just uber for 4 hours and you can use it :) . Not saying ebotdz is bad at all since I used both edc and ebotdz on my zealot but you just need the flexibility to use either wep depending on your setup / your opponents setup. Generally the higher ar setups do better in tap duels since the lower ar setups are pretty inconsistent. But when the low ar setups are hot you're pretty much going to rape everyone until it goes cold. That isn't an efort is it?
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