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This guide is gfg, i tried it out, v/t is working perfectly, best foh/smite combination imo.

This post was edited by MegaVovaN on Jul 10 2010 03:30pm

I checked this out. You are only right when smite level <= 44 and holy shield level is <= 35 at which point.

All situations using maxed out fanacism aura (level 35) and 177 to str or somewhere around that

Situation one: You maxed smite, then dumped rest of the points into holy shield
assuming you have a level 44 smite and a lvl 35 holy shield, using the smite damage formula you get 8975 smite damage.
Situation two: you maxed holy shield, then dumpped rest of the points into smite
assuming you have a level 35 smite and a level 44 holy shield, using smite damage formula you get 8973 smite damage.

So you are right so far.

But when you go 1 skill level past this (eg, using one more pcombat)
Situation one: You maxed smite first then dumpping pts to holy shield
assuming you have a level 45 smite and a level 36 holy shield, using smite damage formula you get 9156 smite damage.
Situation two: you maxed holy shield first then dummping pts into smite.
assuming you have a level 36 smite and a level 45 holy shield, using smite damage formula you get 9169 smite damage.

and the difference between damage increases more and more after that. So if you can't get your hands on 9x pcombats, i'd say max out smite first. Else max holy shield, then dump points into smite.

@ aznmasta

In your guide you said the smite dmg difference between a v/t and a t/v was ~100, this is from a the char screen. But if you calculate the actual damage from the smite dmg formula a v/t and t/v actually have ~1k smite dmg difference. (t/v have a 9k smite and a v/t having a 10k). Or maybe you meant something else.

I might be wrong about what what I said above, correct me if I am, but provide calculations please.

This post was edited by MegaVovaN on Jul 10 2010 06:36pm

The difference in block% from a maxed and non-maxed HS is miniscule. Go with Exile and MB.

Err sorry made an error from my last post, so at lvl 99 a v.t would have 10.2k smite dmg, and a t.v would have 9.7k so i guess the difference is 500 actual dmg.

Good guide all in all.
I prefer Exile/Coa build if it goes along with realms rules.

This post was edited by eXeeXe on Jul 10 2010 07:06pm

have you also calculated the levels (both being 99) and the damage after dr was taken into consideration as well as the pvp penalty?

The damage difference is actually 500 actual dmg, v.t having 10.2k smite dmg, while a t.v doing about 9.7k

So after the 1/6 PvP penalty and also the 50% dr you do about 42 more dmg as a v/t on smite than a t/v.

For foh, the t.v does 5556 dmg while a v.t does 4800 dmg.

5556 - 4800 = 756
756/6 = 126
126*.25 ~ 32 more foh dmg per hit than a v/t. Assuming opponent has 75% resist. You'll be doing about 20 more damage per foh than a v/t if they use 80 light resist and 20 absorb (still GM).

So I guess the trade off between been a v/t and a t/v is really about your play style, if you're super good at chainlock telesmite, then i guess a v/t is the way to go, if not a t/v is a better choice i guess. Foh is after all, autoaim, much easier to foh than to telesmite.

This post was edited by MegaVovaN on Jul 10 2010 11:06pm

can you show the numbers for these calculations in full detail? it will be of much use when i try to explain it to others.

I used a smite dmg calculator online to find the dmg. I just entered the str, fanacism aura, smite level, holy shield level. And a v/t has about 10.2k assuming smite = lvl 46, holy shield = lvl 46, fanacism = lvl 35, and had around 175 str.
Then based on your build for a t/v, you would have a level 41 smite by level 99. So putting that into the calculator it returned ~9700 smite damage.

10200 - 9700 = 500

500/6 = 83.333 (pvp penalty)
83.3333 / 2 = 41.66667 ~ 42 dmg(50% dr)

Now for foh

5556 - 4800 = 756
756/6 = 126 (pvp penalty)
126 * 1/4 = 31.5 ~ 32 more foh damage (assuming opponent has 75% lightning resist)
with 80% light resist, you would do 126*1/5 = 25.2 more foh dmg
+ another 20% sorb from wisp: 25.2 - (25.2* .4) = 14.4 more foh dmg. I messed up the calculation in my last post.

20% absorb basically means, for those that dont know, 20% of the light dmg is taken away, then it's turned into health for you. So basically its a 40% light damage reduction.

So the trade off is 42 smite damage vs. a possible 14.4 foh damage (if 80/20) or vs. a 32 light damage (if just 75). I guess its all down to play style. Like I said in the previous post, you can telesmite very well then I gues been a v/t is better. But Foh is auto hit and much easier to use than telesmiting.

edit: the smite dmg was assuming u have a 400 dmg grief

This post was edited by MegaVovaN on Jul 10 2010 11:46pm