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#1511
Oct 7 2009 07:08pm
Quote (young2093 @ Wed, Oct 7 2009, 05:00pm)
That wasn't the argument. You shouldn't be using DCLAW in ghost v ghost anyways.


damage not miniscule with ww, so damage definitely not miniscule with dclaw, which actually gives some decent ed.
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Oct 7 2009 07:12pm
Quote (young2093 @ Wed, Oct 7 2009, 09:00pm)
That wasn't the argument. You shouldn't be using DCLAW in ghost v ghost anyways.


my argument is that while statistic wise your GTs dont seem too bad compared to runics, but in actual dueling (i use ghost v ghost because that has the least variables of all sin matches) i can and have seen the differences....

ofc that implies that while it may seem like it doesnt matter.... every bit of extra damage or life does indeed matter.

Quote (xSmithenatorx2 @ Wed, Oct 7 2009, 09:08pm)
damage not miniscule with ww, so damage definitely not miniscule with dclaw, which actually gives some decent ed.


this

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Oct 8 2009 01:20am
Has anyone had an issue with AR? I've been making mine and its been quite low. What have you guys attained and how?

Cuz this build lacks claw mastery so I was just curious.

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Oct 8 2009 01:46am
Quote (DarkEmanation @ Thu, Oct 8 2009, 03:20am)
Has anyone had an issue with AR?  I've been making mine and its been quite low.  What have you guys attained and how?

Cuz this build lacks claw mastery so I was just curious.


mastery honestly doesnt add that much... ~2k or so at most

the key to getting high ar is fools claw and visionary circlet
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Oct 8 2009 02:04am
Hm, I've got the fools claw but am missing the visionary. still, my AR is currently 2k/5.5k (chaos/fools). I've got some similar equip (as in the difference isn't too drastic but I'm still lacking a ton of AR--will be getting demon limb later to aid it) and so I'm just wondering why the difference (unless that visionary circ makes such a big diff).

Quote (Azn Masta @ Thu, Oct 8 2009, 12:46am)
mastery honestly doesnt add that much... ~2k or so at most

the key to getting high ar is fools claw and visionary circlet


Also, I beg to differ: I had a sin with ghost skill build and it hit 14k AR with the fools claw while this hybridsin build hits only 5.6k AR (with exact same items)

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Oct 8 2009 02:50am
Quote (JayPee @ Tue, Jun 30 2009, 12:40am)
Pretty good guide.

The downfall is that your gear suggestions make it pretty realm/core restrictive though.


my vouch here
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Oct 8 2009 07:13am
Quote (DarkEmanation @ Thu, 8 Oct 2009, 09:04)
Hm, I've got the fools claw but am missing the visionary.  still, my AR is currently 2k/5.5k (chaos/fools).  I've got some similar equip (as in the difference isn't too drastic but I'm still lacking a ton of AR--will be getting demon limb later to aid it) and so I'm just wondering why the difference (unless that visionary circ makes such a big diff).



Also, I beg to differ: I had a sin with ghost skill build and it hit 14k AR with the fools claw while this hybridsin build hits only 5.6k AR (with exact same items)


It's mostly to do with gear, I've had a hyb with 1k more ar than your ghost with level 1 claw mastery for example.

Also he's kind of right, base claw mastery it's not TOO much of a difference with shadow gcs (only like 4k or so) but it gets closer to 7k diff with 32020s.
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#1518
Oct 8 2009 07:45am
Would you ever recommend a Gul rune in a fool's claw?
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Oct 8 2009 10:17am
Quote (l.e.g.e.n.d @ Thu, Oct 8 2009, 09:45am)
Would you ever recommend a Gul rune in a fool's claw?


no.... never
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Oct 8 2009 04:16pm
Quote (l.e.g.e.n.d @ Thu, Oct 8 2009, 08:45am)
Would you ever recommend a Gul rune in a fool's claw?


yuck


Quote (DarkEmanation @ Thu, Oct 8 2009, 03:04am)
Hm, I've got the fools claw but am missing the visionary.  still, my AR is currently 2k/5.5k (chaos/fools).  I've got some similar equip (as in the difference isn't too drastic but I'm still lacking a ton of AR--will be getting demon limb later to aid it) and so I'm just wondering why the difference (unless that visionary circ makes such a big diff).



Also, I beg to differ: I had a sin with ghost skill build and it hit 14k AR with the fools claw while this hybridsin build hits only 5.6k AR (with exact same items)


i don't use a vis circ and i am at 13k ar ez with a fools claw. my build is not the same a bui's but its close enough. 5.6k ar sounds like a fury to me. You shouldn't need a d limb thats really just for messing with bm players.

also i only have 1 pt in claw mast but all the +to shad raises this significantly
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