Same reason I don't recommend impossible eth 450ed 200demons pikes, or the perf 3os 80% circlets with 15/40ias and 40/30gf, or the insane 2os 80gf/35mf/8LL rare circlets haha

Impossible items I try to avoid.

i saw one last week, but it was 29 cold res

Yeah I have a couple of 40demons/30ed. The third mod is the problem.

lemme know if you sell any FCR Circlet, amulet, or Belts. Im trying to get al least 1 BP. 0 is rough. Searching for rares is a PITA, I wish jsp would update from this boomer format one day.

This post was edited by InigoMontoya on Nov 15 2021 05:33pm

Would you go needle variant only if you have 15 ias+30ed jewel for helm+weapon?

Or is even with only just 15 ias jewel, needle+coh is better than botd+fort?

I find Needle + CoH to be less spiky due to the attacks occurring faster. Less "variance" by a little bit, but it's a non-issue. Both setups are fantastic, but people sometimes struggle with Arioc's because it has a bit less leech & requires more attention

When you can reach the 75IAS breakpoint for Arioc's I find it more pleasant than eBOTD personally. Again, eBOTD + Fort is great too, and it's also fantastic to go eBOTD + CoH if you want the extra resists/life leech.

Most people like a BotD/CoH setup more even than Fort. With a Cham'd Andy's you get up to 33Life Leech and hit the 80IAS Jab breakpoint.

This post was edited by Exokek on Nov 15 2021 06:19pm

I have both setups, and thought I liked the COH needle better. Im now converted to BOTD fort. I tried it with propper gems in both setups. I farm in p3 with a lvl 54 enchant, so im not sure if that makes a big difference, but my biggest issue is the monsters healing each other. I try to keep them stunned to prevent it, but with the needle i was doing much less damage chunks giving them more time to heal. Sad that both prevent monster heal and ignores target defense dont work on merc, as well as deadly strike+ enchant. When I learned that, that was the nail in the coffin for the needle.

I have not tried the COH ebotd setup, but cant see any reason I would. Death does not occur.
So you get +2 jab, +2 might = 20%ed, +2 jab = 6ed, total 26%
you dont need IAS or resists, so helm jewel could be a 30ED 40Demons, so +30% there.
total 56%ed, but lose 100% from fort = -44%... so i guess for people who need more life leech, but I cant see how anyone would.
is there something im missing?

This post was edited by InigoMontoya on Nov 15 2021 06:14pm

Lvl 54 Enchant makes a TON of difference haha. That's like removing all their defense.

CoH is for the big resists vs. Conviction, and the extra life leech cushion.

With those resists you can even use Cham on Andy's for CBF.

This post was edited by Exokek on Nov 15 2021 06:19pm

"Lvl 54 Enchant makes a TON of difference"
Yea it does. I was more referencing if it makes a difference between liking eBOTD vs Needle more.

A Cham sure would be nice.

Originally i thought ITD worked, and enchant worked with deadly strike, so it was a no brainer that Needle would be better. But learned neither work