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Jun 7 2021 03:22am
Quote (cantero @ Jun 7 2021 07:27am)
I'm thinking about the new weapons that this bug improves. Schaefer's Hammer should now be at least decent.


I dno, i dont think it work with slower bases mate, at least for me i hit zero when using cb base to hit with. Animation look fast, but is in fact slow xD
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Quote (gel87 @ 7 Jun 2021 11:22)
I dno, i dont think it work with slower bases mate, at least for me i hit zero when using cb base to hit with. Animation look fast, but is in fact slow xD


I got my -req wolfhowl and 9 9 -15 jwl in ladder, with those i will be able to test str bug weapons. Now i have only tested dex bug, and i saw no changes with 40ias pb or 0ias pb.
Did you try with -15 wolfhowl and str jwl in bug pb?
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Jun 7 2021 03:33am
bm (Grief) duel test 1:
2x barb wolf same points and wps (except Barb 1 glitch pb): 155 str, 136 dex, 543 vita, ber'd Wolfhowl, Fort, dungo, gore, duel gloves, over 9x max-ar-life gc, duel sc.
9479 life after bo and werewolf, 22176 AR, both is 18DR, over 42fhr
tested 10 times, dex glitch wolf won all, everytime got 1.5k ~ 6.7k life remain after duel.

bm (Grief) duel test 2:

still same, except: this time second wolf use Grief + Hel'd SS. so 2nd wolf is 50DR cap, glitch wolf is 18DR.
result: dex glitch wolf only won once, Shield wolf won 9th, life remain everytime is 1~2k only (they both 9479 life)

Fury vs glitch barb test 3:
Fury druid 2x40-15 + zod eth Tomb Reaver, same 155 str, 136 dex, ber'd Jalals, fort, dungo ,gore, duel gloves, same charms,
dru life 9.8k, 35k ar,
barb life 9.479k life, 22k ar.
Fury won 9 times, glitch won once. (Fury >> a level 9 Feral rage)

This post was edited by Ironboar on Jun 7 2021 03:36am
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Jun 7 2021 03:38am
Quote (gel87 @ Jun 7 2021 02:22am)
I dno, i dont think it work with slower bases mate, at least for me i hit zero when using cb base to hit with. Animation look fast, but is in fact slow xD


I think grief PB is the best for this pvm build so far, tho I tried CB Grief and works good too.
death CB got apparent feeling of empty attack (animation and no efficient dmg)

main wp base and ias on it seems really matter so far i guess.

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Jun 7 2021 03:40am
Damn, it was the time for my death cs to shine :(
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Jun 7 2021 04:03am
Supplement: a way to show real speed (on ur screen)

I did other tests included this:


This one is ezier to get (4x Shael, 1x Ko, 1x Hel), same dmg & speed ratio as 3F animation one, but it's attack animation is 4F, tho faster than 5F, I used it killed some holy freeze aura uniques, speed didn't get slower.
so topic is 3F animation, 4/4F,
this one is 4F animation, 4/4F,
Grief is 5/7F


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Jun 7 2021 04:15am
Quote (Ironboar @ Jun 7 2021 11:38am)
I think grief PB is the best for this pvm build so far, tho I tried CB Grief and works good too.
death CB got apparent feeling of empty attack (animation and no efficient dmg)

main wp base and ias on it seems really matter so far i guess.


Okay, maby i only tried without ias. Or well, im pretty sure i tried with 40ias in. For me it gave false hits. Im on asgard server though, might be different. The wierd part was that it did break bone armor, but needed loads of hits before it hit the nec lol xD
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Jun 7 2021 04:15am
If you go for the next breakpoint 75ias is enough, so you can change a shael for a 15ias 15@ jwl, for example.
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Jun 7 2021 04:39am
Quote (gel87 @ Jun 7 2021 03:15am)
Okay, maby i only tried without ias. Or well, im pretty sure i tried with 40ias in. For me it gave false hits. Im on asgard server though, might be different. The wierd part was that it did break bone armor, but needed loads of hits before it hit the nec lol xD


But I think if we test different base, no matter how the ias mods go, better leave a room for Jah(ignore target defense), then Eth.
Grief got all good things for test (ignore, -25%, 400), but white pb or CB e Death don't, that could also make we feel doubt.
some of the empty eDeath CB attack maybe because of this.

Quote (cantero @ Jun 7 2021 03:15am)
If you go for the next breakpoint 75ias is enough, so you can change a shael for a 15ias 15@ jwl, for example.


yes, as long as we figure out the ias - animation relation, better replacement, more beneficial, any expensive replacement would make it better.
if like 3F experience, put a good rare jewel +res + dex -require +xxx,
if think 4F actual not bad, put things like u said, 1x 15-15, 1x gg rare +dex jewel,

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Jun 7 2021 04:48am
Ignore Target's Defense don't work against other players.
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